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From: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <bh40@calva.net>
To: Adrian Cox <apc@agelectronics.co.uk>,
	Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram.es>,
	<linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org>
Subject: Re: PATCH: improved processor config for G3s
Date: Mon, 4 Sep 2000 12:54:46 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20000904105446.26517@mailhost.mipsys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <39B37AD2.120E2DE7@agelectronics.co.uk>


>> A rule of thumb is the following: fully SMP capable processors broadcast
>> eieio (and tlbie for that matter), others do not at least by default. On
>> an UP 750 (SMP 750 are an aberration in any case because of TLB issues),
>> I'd bet that it is more efficient to let the processor perform store
>> gathering when it can (an eieio between both stores will prevent it) and
>> to disable both ABE in the processor and store gathering in the bridge.
>> This will result in lower processor bus utilization.
>
>Remember that the processor store gathering is only capable of turning
>two 32-bit writes to uncached, nonguarded space into one 64-bit write.
>The bridge store gathering converts an arbitrary sequence of sequential
>writes into a PCI burst.
>
>The bridge store gathering should be able to produce far more IO
>improvement, and still works if the guard bit is set on the address
>space.
>
>I should have done a set of MPC107 experiments by the start of October,
>and I'll know for sure then.

Also, are you sure, Gabriel, that eieio() not beeing broadcast to the
bridge would harm ? The bridge is not allowed to do any re-ordering.
Maybe there are issues with devices not supporting burst access to
registers, but shouldn't those devices abort the burst after the first
access ?

Drivers sensitive to timing constraints must already do a read to flush
the bridge buffer, so...

Ben.


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  reply	other threads:[~2000-09-04 10:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2000-09-03 13:03 PATCH: improved processor config for G3s Michel Lanners
2000-09-03 13:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2000-09-04  9:48   ` Gabriel Paubert
2000-09-04 10:34     ` Adrian Cox
2000-09-04 10:54       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt [this message]
2000-09-05  9:49         ` Gabriel Paubert
2000-09-05 10:50           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2000-09-05 11:06             ` Gabriel Paubert
2000-09-05 11:32           ` Adrian Cox
2000-09-04 17:51     ` Michel Lanners

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