From: Cort Dougan <cort@fsmlabs.com>
To: David Edelsohn <dje@watson.ibm.com>
Cc: paulus@linuxcare.com.au, Dan Malek <dan@mvista.com>,
Gabriel Paubert <paubert@iram.es>,
tom_gall@vnet.ibm.com, linuxppc-commit@hq.fsmlabs.com,
linuxppc-dev <linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org>
Subject: Re: context overflow
Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:26:42 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20010208152641.P24312@hq.fsmlabs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200102082208.RAA22218@mal-ach.watson.ibm.com>; from David Edelsohn on Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 05:08:32PM -0500
} statements about which VMM design is best. You can create a wonderful
} engineer solution, but are you solving the problem or simply masking a
} symptom?
Would you characterize AIX as an OS that takes advantage of the VMM design
of the PowerPC? From the benchmarks I did it appeared to suffer the same
problem that Linux/PPC did at that time. The problem being, a
straightforward implementation of the software side of the VM design of the
PowerPC. After some general improvements in the MM system of Linux/PPC we
sped things up by a large amount by doing what you claim is a mistake. We
widened the gap between Linux/PPC and what was probably the best example of
what VM design can come from knowledge of the PPC architecture (in AIX).
AIX can't claim to be doing it better. I was unable to look under the hood
of AIX, of course, but my benchmarks did show that the _ONLY_ thing that
mattered - wall clock time of user apps - was improved. Doing things that
non-PPC way is not a flaw if it results in better performance.
I do stand by our design, and the choices we made, but I'm open to
suggestion for better ways to do it. I can certainly believe there's a lot
of room for improvement. This is linux, though - actual working code speaks
more loudly and clearly than anything else.
Do you have an example of a better way of doing a VM system in Linux/PPC?
We can't change the page table layout. That's something we're stuck with,
in one form or another, in Linux no matter what (not our decision). What
does Kitchewan do for a VM subsystem? Can you give me an overview of the
design?
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2001-02-08 22:26 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2001-01-20 2:27 context overflow Dan Malek
2001-01-22 4:28 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-01-22 4:39 ` Tom Gall
2001-01-22 18:10 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 18:55 ` tom_gall
2001-01-22 19:59 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-22 22:08 ` tom_gall
2001-01-23 0:10 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-23 10:00 ` Gabriel Paubert
2001-01-23 18:21 ` Dan Malek
2001-02-06 10:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-06 21:11 ` Dan Malek
2001-02-06 21:50 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-06 22:29 ` Dan Malek
2001-02-06 22:45 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-06 10:50 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-06 21:32 ` Dan Malek
2001-02-06 22:08 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-06 23:14 ` Dan Malek
2001-02-07 0:23 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-07 18:02 ` Dan Malek
2001-02-08 0:48 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-08 1:39 ` Frank Rowand
2001-02-08 19:00 ` David Edelsohn
2001-02-08 20:53 ` Roman Zippel
2001-02-08 21:14 ` David Edelsohn
2001-02-08 23:23 ` Roman Zippel
2001-02-08 23:48 ` Cort Dougan
2001-02-08 21:28 ` Cort Dougan
2001-02-08 22:08 ` David Edelsohn
2001-02-08 22:26 ` Cort Dougan [this message]
2001-02-08 23:17 ` David Edelsohn
2001-02-08 23:27 ` Cort Dougan
2001-02-08 23:28 ` Gabriel Paubert
2001-02-09 9:58 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-09 10:57 ` Gabriel Paubert
2001-02-09 11:26 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-09 10:49 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-02-07 9:18 ` Roman Zippel
2001-02-07 17:46 ` Dan Malek
2001-02-07 18:39 ` Roman Zippel
2001-02-07 21:16 ` Gabriel Paubert
2001-02-08 0:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2001-01-22 4:55 ` Larry McVoy
2001-01-22 6:15 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2001-01-23 1:12 ` Frank Rowand
2001-01-23 1:20 ` Dan Malek
2001-01-23 2:12 ` Frank Rowand
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