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From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "Mark A. Greer" <mgreer@mvista.com>,
	Michael Sokolov <msokolov@ivan.Harhan.ORG>,
	linux-galileo@source.mvista.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: EV-64260-BP & GT64260 bi_recs
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 17:18:35 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020320161840.C5A84109F3@denx.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 20 Mar 2002 08:55:51 MST." <20020320155551.GD3762@opus.bloom.county>


In message <20020320155551.GD3762@opus.bloom.county> you wrote:
>
> Well, I do think the idea of a generic BI_ETH_DEVICE was killed.  Unless
> you can work out how to deal with the multiple driver issue above.

I'm getting a bit tired about this discussion. We  start  with  siome
nice  ideas,  then  some open issues pop up, and instead of trying to
find a solution we drop everything again. I think I rather lean  back
and  wait for the next round of this discussin in about 2 or 3 months
from now.

We are just wasting time. it seems.

> Well if this works now, why wouldn't it work later?

It works now because we usually have only a single network interface,
and there is a single MAC address entry in bd_info. There are  a  few
systems which have more interfaces (with a strong tendency that their
number  is  growing) and they use a private (non-standard) version of
bd_info which is incompatible with anything else. Or  they  use  some
hard-wired mechanism to compute the additional MAC addresses from the
first one which is usually not acceptable.

> > I am not aware of something that looks like an acceptable solution to
> > me.
>
> So you don't like the patch you made or you don't recall the patch I'm
> talking about?

I'm not really sure which patch you are referring to; I think I  know
which one you mean, and that one was ugly ;-)

> I don't see how an index helps (enet drivers are in a 'random' order,
> normally) and some bytes for specific info just means there's some bytes
> there.  Are you saying the first set of bytes we toss in say this is
> driver X ?

For instance. Hey, but we are talking about a very, very special case
here - when you have set of non-standard controllers which don't know
their own addresses _and_ need to get a specific assignment _and_ you
don't know the initialization sequence _and_ ...

For 98% of all practical purposes it will be sufficient to  pass  the
list of MAC addresses, and for 1.95% it will be sufficient to combine
the  MAC  address  with  information about the driver type (GT, 82xx,
...).

> > So far all 824x systems we (DENX) have seen  looked  like  "standard"
> > PCI devices, using standard device drivers under Linux.
>
> Er, you lost me there.  Either you're saying it's using "standard" chips
> (tulip, eepro, et al), or (and I don't recall if 824x has it's own
> special enet like 8260) the enet device shows up normally on the PCI bus
> and you've got drivers for it..

They are using hardware that looks like standard chips to the system.

> But either way it's sounding like it's not a problem now..

Right.

The biggest problem to me is a couple of 8260 systems with  dedicated
assigment of MAC addresses to several ethernet interfaces.

Wolfgang Denk

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       reply	other threads:[~2002-03-20 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 93+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20020320155551.GD3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 16:18 ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
2002-03-27 20:09 EV-64260-BP & GT64260 bi_recs Michael Sokolov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2002-03-27 18:53 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 19:37 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:34 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:32 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 18:46 ` benh
2002-03-27 18:03 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 16:16 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 16:24   ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 18:40   ` benh
2002-03-27 18:02     ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 18:06       ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:32 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-27 15:46 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:48 ` benh
2002-03-27 15:59   ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27  2:37 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-26 21:52 ` benh
2002-03-27 14:15   ` Matt Porter
2002-03-27 15:10     ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 15:15       ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-27 17:47         ` benh
2002-03-28  9:14       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-27  1:35 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-26 23:48 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-24 16:02 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21  2:13 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21  6:39 ` Dan Malek
2002-03-31  8:32   ` Paul Mackerras
2002-04-01 18:39     ` Dan Malek
2002-04-02  5:32       ` Paul Mackerras
2002-04-02 16:33         ` Tom Rini
2002-04-02 17:29         ` Dan Malek
2002-04-02 14:42           ` Armin
2002-04-02 20:12           ` Tom Rini
2002-04-02 21:02             ` Dan Malek
2002-04-03  0:21               ` Tom Rini
     [not found] <dan@embeddededge.com>
     [not found] ` <3C98DA15.50302@embeddededge.com>
2002-03-21  1:11   ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-21  6:50     ` Dan Malek
2002-03-21 11:05       ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-21  1:10 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21  0:57 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-21  6:58 ` Dan Malek
2002-03-21  0:47 Michael Sokolov
     [not found] <3C98B189.78A92DFE@mvista.com>
2002-03-20 18:12 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found]   ` <3C98DB49.2C3A2F79@mvista.com>
2002-03-23  3:49     ` Val Henson
2002-03-20 17:11 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 18:06 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 17:04 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 17:25 ` Tom Rini
2002-03-21 20:36 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2002-03-21 19:17   ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-21 21:36     ` Jim Potter
     [not found] <20020320164025.31626@mailhost.mipsys.com>
2002-03-20 16:59 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <20020320150119.GB3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20 15:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20  1:02 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20  0:43 Michael Sokolov
2002-03-19 23:00 ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-20  7:55   ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20 13:19 ` benh
2002-03-20 15:30   ` Michael Sokolov
2002-03-20 16:19     ` Tom Rini
2002-03-20 16:58       ` benh
2002-03-23  4:01         ` Val Henson
2002-03-23 13:07           ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-24 12:22             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 12:20           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 19:09             ` Val Henson
2002-03-24 16:46               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-25  8:51                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-24 18:16                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-26  2:16                 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26 10:05                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 19:38               ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2002-03-24 16:55                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-24 17:18                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-03-25  0:44               ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-25 22:05                 ` Val Henson
2002-03-26  3:21             ` Val Henson
2002-03-26  4:14               ` Murray Jensen
2002-03-26 10:14               ` benh
2002-03-26 12:05                 ` Gabriel Paubert
2002-03-26 12:18                   ` benh
2002-03-26 23:24             ` Mark A. Greer
2002-03-26 21:40               ` benh
2002-03-27 15:13                 ` Mark A. Greer
     [not found] <20020320000500.GV3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20  0:28 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <20020319235815.GU3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-20  0:24 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <20020319224420.GO3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-19 23:00 ` Wolfgang Denk
2002-03-20  0:03 ` Gabriel Paubert
     [not found] <20020319231628.GQ3762@opus.bloom.county>
2002-03-19 23:46 ` Wolfgang Denk
     [not found] <3C97A9C1.EBA150B6@mvista.com>
2002-03-19 23:36 ` Wolfgang Denk

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