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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Russell King <rmk@arm.linux.org.uk>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-embedded@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: Serial core problems on embedded PPC
Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 11:12:03 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20020730011203.GL2351@zax> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20020729100009.A23843@flint.arm.linux.org.uk>


On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 10:00:10AM +0100, Russell King wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2002 at 02:08:24PM +1000, David Gibson wrote:
> > I've been trying to get the new serial core stuff working on a PPC 4xx
> > machine (an EP405 board, specifically).  This is proving more
> > difficult than I expected.
>
> It's vital that you mention the kernel version you're using; some of
> these problems sound like 2.5.28.

Sorry.  I'm working off the linuxppc-2.5 BK tree, which is currently
at 2.5.29.

> > In 8250.c, it appears that in order for a port to be used for the
> > serial console it must be defined "old style" with SERIAL_PORT_DFNS,
> > rather than being registered with register_serial() (because
> > serial8250_console_setup() indexs into the serial8250_ports array)).
> > This presents a small problem for 4xx, since it's serial ports are
> > memory mapped and the new old_serial_port structure can't represent
> > these.
>
> There is no easy solution for this.  Alan said we must not drop support
> for serial console initialisation early on in the kernel setup, which
> means before the memory subsystems are initialised.
>
> > I added support for these into 8250.c, but ran into further troubles.
>
> I suspect a 2.5.28 kernel; please confirm and we'll that it from there.

2.5.29 based BK, actually.

> > The current plethora of similar-but-not-the-same structures describing
> > serial ports (serial_state, serial_struct, uart_port, old_serial_port)
> > is also rather confusing.  I'm guessing some of these are deprecated
> > and remain only as an aid to transition, but I'm not sure which.
>
> I don't see there being an easy way to kill this off:
>
> 1. serial_struct is a userspace API.

Ok.

> 2. old_serial_port glues asm/serial.h into 8250.c; asm/serial.h can't be
>    changed because (mainly) ppc uses it elsewhere.  Other architectures
>    seem to do the same sort of thing.

I think PPC's use of asm/serial.h in the bootloader needs to go away
anyway.  Could old_serial_port at least change base_baud to baud_base
to match serial_struct and serial_state.  That way a designated
initializer will work in either context.

> Unless ppc and others are willing to put up with major breakage when I
> change asm/serial.h, I don't see this getting cleaned up.  Comments on
> this area welcome.

Well, the machines I'm working on are totally broken now, so...

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      parent reply	other threads:[~2002-07-30  1:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2002-07-29  4:08 Serial core problems on embedded PPC David Gibson
2002-07-29  9:00 ` Russell King
2002-07-29 14:44   ` Tom Rini
2002-07-29 17:17     ` 3 Serial issues up for discussion (was: Re: Serial core problems on embedded PPC) Russell King
2002-07-29 17:43       ` Tom Rini
2002-07-29 18:13         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2002-07-29 19:07           ` Tom Rini
2002-07-29 19:09           ` 3 Serial issues up for discussion (was: " Dan Malek
2002-07-29 19:46             ` Remco Treffkorn
2002-07-29 20:18               ` Russell King
2002-07-30  2:54               ` 3 Serial issues up for discussion David S. Miller
2002-07-29 18:15         ` 3 Serial issues up for discussion (was: Re: Serial core problems on embedded PPC) Matt Porter
2002-07-29 17:47       ` [parisc-linux] " Christoph Plattner
2002-07-29 22:19       ` Matthew Wilcox
2002-07-30  2:51       ` 3 Serial issues up for discussion David S. Miller
2002-08-02  6:01     ` symbol card with orinoco_cs on mpc823 shaowei dai
2002-08-02  6:23       ` David Gibson
2002-08-02  6:36         ` Matthew Locke
2002-08-02  7:01           ` shaowei dai
     [not found]       ` <3D4AC468.83BCD667@opensource.se>
2002-08-03  1:30         ` shaowei dai
2002-07-30  1:12   ` David Gibson [this message]

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