From: Wolfgang Denk <wd@denx.de>
To: Eugene Surovegin <ebs@ebshome.net>
Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: set_rtc_time() cleanup / normalization
Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 02:08:15 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20030514000820.B3397C6092@atlas.denx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 May 2003 16:33:50 PDT." <5.1.0.14.2.20030513161846.03805338@mail.ebshome.net>
In message <5.1.0.14.2.20030513161846.03805338@mail.ebshome.net>
Eugene Surovegin wrote:
>
> >The consensus so far seems to be that we shouldn't call set_rtc_time
> >in the timer interrupt handler. Is anyone willing to speak up with a
> >reason why we should keep it?
>
> Because there are systems which rely on this behavior?
> For example, all our embedded systems use this feature.
>
> Wolfgang said that "... many embedded systems run in a configuration
> where they use a high precision RTC chip...".
>
> All embedded systems I saw used cheap RTC parts with poor accuracy.
>
> I think we mix two different issues here:
>
> 1) call set_rtc_time() from timer interrupt every 11 min if clock is
> synched (e.g. by NTP)
> I don't see any problems with this.
There are many problems with this approch, for a summary see
http://lists.linuxppc.org/linuxppc-dev/200305/msg00034.html
The main reason to remove it is thatit's broken (i. e. causes kernel
crashes) on many hardware configurations.
> 2) set_rtc_time() implementation for concrete RTC device *maybe* slow or
> just cannot
> be called from the interrupt context.
> Why just don't fix actual RTC code in each case ?
> It may be useful to provide some *generic* facility for such cases.
Do you have any recommendation HOW to implement such a "fix"?
The argument to put the set_rtc_time() call into the timer interrupt
was accuracy; if you have to remove it from interrupt context the
only solution I've seen so far is to pay for an additional kernel
thread - more overhead, and you just removed the only argument to put
it into the timer interrupt at all.
It just makes no sense to me.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2003-05-14 0:08 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2003-05-12 21:17 set_rtc_time() cleanup / normalization Wolfgang Denk
2003-05-13 0:16 ` Dan Malek
2003-05-13 7:52 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2003-05-13 8:18 ` Gabriel Paubert
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0305131051420.20323-100000@vervain.sonytel.be>
2003-05-13 10:21 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-05-13 13:35 ` Wolfgang Denk
2003-05-13 12:03 ` Richard Zidlicky
2003-05-13 23:05 ` Paul Mackerras
2003-05-13 23:33 ` Eugene Surovegin
2003-05-14 0:08 ` Wolfgang Denk [this message]
[not found] ` <5.1.0.14.2.20030513171616.037f6800@mail.ebshome.net>
2003-05-14 3:47 ` Matt Porter
[not found] ` <5.1.0.14.2.20030513214040.02a6e6d0@mail.ebshome.net>
[not found] ` <3EC1DB1F.8000408@embeddededge.com>
2003-05-14 6:41 ` Eugene Surovegin
2003-05-14 6:47 ` Wolfgang Denk
2003-05-14 8:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2003-05-14 15:57 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-05-14 16:41 ` Eugene Surovegin
2003-05-14 15:50 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-05-14 15:43 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-05-14 16:28 ` Dan Malek
2003-05-15 18:04 ` Gabriel Paubert
2003-05-15 18:21 ` Wolfgang Denk
[not found] ` <20030515184412.GA22327@iram.es>
2003-05-15 19:37 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
[not found] <20030514230638.GB1687@linux-m68k.org>
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.21.0305151031410.13683-100000@vervain.sonytel.be>
2003-05-15 10:45 ` Gabriel Paubert
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