* RE: problem with standard libc on 8xx
@ 2004-02-27 10:11 Demke, Torsten
2004-02-27 10:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Demke, Torsten @ 2004-02-27 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Wolfgang Denk, Demke, Torsten; +Cc: Linuxppc-Embedded (E-mail)
Hello Wolfgang,
so what is your proposal, to solve the problem?
I would like to use Debian binaries, but I cannot
use the floating point emulation of the kernel!?
Regards,
Torsten
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wolfgang Denk [mailto:wd@denx.de]
> Sent: Freitag, 27. Februar 2004 10:43
> To: Demke, Torsten
> Cc: Linuxppc-Embedded (E-mail)
> Subject: Re: problem with standard libc on 8xx
>
>
> In message
> <9CFB9DA5261CD611A29B00508B78904807F880ED@ex-deu-munich02.forc
> e.de> you wrote:
> >
> > I created my own root-fs for a MPC8xx platform
> > using standard Debian packages (including libc).
> > When I start the system, the init scripts hangs
> ...
> > I guess that the Debian libc uses floating point - which
>
> Thi sis definitely one cause of the problem. Another one might be
> optimization for a incorrect cache line size (32 instead of 16
> bytes).
>
> > is not available on MPC8xx - but I thougt the kernel would
> > emulate this calls (CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y).
>
> This has never been working reliably for any real-life code. And it's
> awfully slow.
>
> Also note that you CANNOT mix standard binaries (from Debian) and 8xx
> specific libraries (from ELDK) - this will crash as soon as an
> application attempts to use floating point.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Wolfgang Denk
>
> --
> Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux
> Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87 Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88 Email: wd@denx.de
> Above all else -- sky.
>
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* Re: problem with standard libc on 8xx
2004-02-27 10:11 problem with standard libc on 8xx Demke, Torsten
@ 2004-02-27 10:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
2004-02-26 21:23 ` MMU Problem bringing up kernel with PPC 603 chip Bob Beck
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From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2004-02-27 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Demke, Torsten; +Cc: Linuxppc-Embedded (E-mail)
In message <9CFB9DA5261CD611A29B00508B78904807F88115@ex-deu-munich02.force.de> you wrote:
>
> so what is your proposal, to solve the problem?
Use libraries and binaries that were built for a 8xx system.
> I would like to use Debian binaries, but I cannot
> use the floating point emulation of the kernel!?
I'm afraid you cannot.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux
Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87 Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88 Email: wd@denx.de
Old programmers never die, they just branch to a new address.
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* MMU Problem bringing up kernel with PPC 603 chip
2004-02-27 10:36 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2004-02-26 21:23 ` Bob Beck
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From: Bob Beck @ 2004-02-26 21:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linuxppc-embedded
All,
I'm bringing up my 1st kernel on a proprietary board
using a PPC 603E chip.
The kernel is configured using the 6xx/7xx ppc selection.
The kernel starts executing at __start in head.S and
branches to early_init(). I have stubbed out the call
to prom_init() since this is an embedded system and
not a power mac (as the comments at the top of the
prom.c file indicate).
The code returns to head.S and branches to mmu_off.
Here is the code for mmu_off.
mmu_off:
addi r4, r3, __after_mmu_off - _start
mfmsr r3
andi. r0,r3,MSR_DR|MSR_IR /* MMU enabled? */
beqlr
andc r3,r3,r0
mtspr SRR0,r4
mtspr SRR1,r3
sync
RFI
This executes all the way to the "RFI" instruction,
but never comes back to the place in the code that
called mmu_off.
Why is the "return from interrupt" going out into
space ? Any suggestions ?
Best Regards,
Bob Beck
beck@assurtech.com
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* problem with standard libc on 8xx
@ 2004-02-27 8:55 Demke, Torsten
2004-02-27 9:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Demke, Torsten @ 2004-02-27 8:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Linuxppc-Embedded (E-mail)
Hello all,
I created my own root-fs for a MPC8xx platform
using standard Debian packages (including libc).
When I start the system, the init scripts hangs
whenever it executes a function (exceptt some simple
thinks like 'echo').
- the same root-fs starts without problem on a MPC8245 platform.
- the root-fs starts when I exchange the libc with the libraries
from the ELDK.
I guess that the Debian libc uses floating point - which
is not available on MPC8xx - but I thougt the kernel would
emulate this calls (CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y).
Any hints?
Regards,
Torsten
Torsten Demke
Software Engineer
Force Computers GmbH
- A Solectron Company -
Lilienthalstr. 15
D-85579 Neubiberg/München
Tel. ++49/89/60814-404
Fax ++49/89/60814-112
mailto:torsten.demke@fci.com
www.forcecomputers.com
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* Re: problem with standard libc on 8xx
2004-02-27 8:55 problem with standard libc on 8xx Demke, Torsten
@ 2004-02-27 9:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
2004-02-27 10:18 ` Joakim Tjernlund
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From: Wolfgang Denk @ 2004-02-27 9:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Demke, Torsten; +Cc: Linuxppc-Embedded (E-mail)
In message <9CFB9DA5261CD611A29B00508B78904807F880ED@ex-deu-munich02.force.de> you wrote:
>
> I created my own root-fs for a MPC8xx platform
> using standard Debian packages (including libc).
> When I start the system, the init scripts hangs
...
> I guess that the Debian libc uses floating point - which
Thi sis definitely one cause of the problem. Another one might be
optimization for a incorrect cache line size (32 instead of 16
bytes).
> is not available on MPC8xx - but I thougt the kernel would
> emulate this calls (CONFIG_MATH_EMULATION=y).
This has never been working reliably for any real-life code. And it's
awfully slow.
Also note that you CANNOT mix standard binaries (from Debian) and 8xx
specific libraries (from ELDK) - this will crash as soon as an
application attempts to use floating point.
Best regards,
Wolfgang Denk
--
Software Engineering: Embedded and Realtime Systems, Embedded Linux
Phone: (+49)-8142-4596-87 Fax: (+49)-8142-4596-88 Email: wd@denx.de
Above all else -- sky.
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* RE: problem with standard libc on 8xx
2004-02-27 9:43 ` Wolfgang Denk
@ 2004-02-27 10:18 ` Joakim Tjernlund
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From: Joakim Tjernlund @ 2004-02-27 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'Wolfgang Denk', 'Demke, Torsten'
Cc: 'Linuxppc-Embedded (E-mail)'
> In message
> <9CFB9DA5261CD611A29B00508B78904807F880ED@ex-deu-munich02.forc
> e.de> you wrote:
> >
> > I created my own root-fs for a MPC8xx platform
> > using standard Debian packages (including libc).
> > When I start the system, the init scripts hangs
> ...
> > I guess that the Debian libc uses floating point - which
>
> Thi sis definitely one cause of the problem. Another one might be
> optimization for a incorrect cache line size (32 instead of 16
> bytes).
Also, you must make sure you don't use any cache instructions such
as dcbz. I believe the optimized memset function i glibc uses dcbz.
The mpc8xx CPU has a HW bug which makes the TLB exceptions fail
for most cache instructions. There is a workaround for this, but it
is somewhat ugly. Search the embedded archives if you want to known more.
Jocke
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