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From: Eugene Surovegin <ebs@ebshome.net>
To: John Whitney <jwhitney-linuxppc@sands-edge.com>
Cc: Matt Porter <mporter@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.linuxppc.org
Subject: Re: Problems with dma_alloc_coherent()
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2004 10:33:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20040401183330.GA3768@gate.ebshome.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20040401181926.GA3630@gate.ebshome.net>


On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 10:19:26AM -0800, Eugene Surovegin wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 01, 2004 at 12:51:54PM -0500, John Whitney wrote:
> > I noticed that all the PCI and DMA coherency routines seem to assume
> > that DMA will occur between memory and a bus device (all physical
> > addresses returned are converted to a bus address).  Is this really the
> > desired action?  I would have prefered to have the PCI routines return
> > bus-correct physical addresses, and the DMA routines return processor
> > physical addresses (so they can be used for non-bus-related DMA, to a
> > direct memory-mapped encryption chip, for example).  Is this the
> > eventual implementation of those functions, or are all DMA transactions
> > expected to be to or from a PCI-based device?
>
> Hmm, I don't understand this, bus != PCI bus. All devices sit on some kind of
> bus, even your encryption chip.
>
> As far as I understand, DMA API was added exactly because we may have different
> (from PCI) buses.
>
> Current implementation just relies on the fact that PCI devices view system
> memory the same way as other-bus devices (e.g. OCP devices which sit on OPB).
>
> In more general case, yes, "views" can be different for each bus type or even
> for each bus...

Let me clarify my point.

You are right that returning PCI-bus address _may_ not be very good. I think
it's OK for now, because it should work for the reason I pointed earlier.

In future, implementation may change...

What you are proposing isn't better than the current PCI-bus addresses. Phys
address is just an address on processor local bus, so changing PCI-bus as a
default to PLB as a default doesn't seem wise.

Correct implementation should devise DMA-addresses (and actual bus) from the
_device_ passed to DMA API function...

Eugene.

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  reply	other threads:[~2004-04-01 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-04-01 15:59 Problems with dma_alloc_coherent() John Whitney
2004-04-01 16:30 ` John Whitney
2004-04-01 16:51 ` Dan Malek
2004-04-01 17:01 ` Tom Rini
2004-04-01 17:05 ` Matt Porter
2004-04-01 17:51   ` John Whitney
2004-04-01 18:16     ` Matt Porter
2004-04-01 18:19     ` Eugene Surovegin
2004-04-01 18:33       ` Eugene Surovegin [this message]
2004-04-01 18:33       ` John Whitney
2004-04-01 18:40         ` Eugene Surovegin
2004-04-01 18:48           ` John Whitney
2004-04-01 18:55       ` Dan Malek
2004-04-01 18:59         ` Eugene Surovegin
2004-04-01 19:10           ` John Whitney
2004-04-01 19:17             ` Eugene Surovegin
2004-04-01 19:35               ` John Whitney
2004-04-01 20:52               ` Michael R. Zucca
2004-04-01 22:00                 ` Eugene Surovegin
2004-04-01 22:39                   ` Michael R. Zucca
2004-04-02 16:50                   ` John Whitney
2004-04-02 18:50                     ` Michael R. Zucca
2004-04-02 19:27                       ` John Whitney
2004-04-02 20:20                         ` Michael R. Zucca
2004-04-02 21:01                           ` John Whitney
2004-04-03  7:54                             ` Adrian Cox
2004-04-03 12:43                               ` John Whitney
2004-04-05  9:05                                 ` Adrian Cox
2004-04-03 17:33                               ` Brad Boyer
2004-04-03 23:17                                 ` Paul Mackerras
2004-04-04  8:15                                 ` Adrian Cox
2004-04-02 22:54                     ` Paul Mackerras
2004-04-03  7:33                       ` Adrian Cox
2004-04-04 22:56                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2004-04-02  5:45             ` Christoph Hellwig
2004-04-01 20:49           ` Matt Porter

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