Re: UDP packet loss (8xx/2.4.26)

[Eugene Surovegin <ebs@ebshome.net>]

On Thu, Aug 26, 2004 at 09:35:17AM -0700, Smith, Craig wrote:
>
> Hello,
> I'm having a problem with UDP packet loss (small packets, simulated
> compressed VoIP calls). The packets are being dropped in netif_rx,
> and if I increase the netdev_max_backlog to something huge I get
> no packet loss, but the delay is pretty bad resulting in terrible
> MOS scores.
>
> I'm trying to decide if my Linux kernel simply can't keep up
> with the traffic or if there's still something I can tweak to
> improve the performance (or maybe I need to try getting a 2.6
> kernel to work).

It's very unlikely 2.6 will make things better.

> Below, I've included a few more details about
> my platform and test setup. The test runs fine on the same
> board with our proprietary OS, so I know it's "physically"
> possible, I'm just evaluating Linux's performance as well.
>
> Kernel: 2.4.26 (kernel.org) w/ mpc860sar (from sourceforge.net)
> CPU: 855T @ 48MHz

This is very low-end CPU :)

> MEM: 16M SDRAM, 4M flash
> LAN: Broadcom BCM5327 10/100 8 port switch
> WAN: Conexant Bt8370 T1 (ATM using mpc860sar code)
>
> Test: 30 compressed voice calls downstream (LAN<-WAN)
> Packet size: ~64bytes IP/UDP + ATM overhead
> In a 30 second test, the test sends ~45000 packets (30 different
> streams), and about 5000 are dropped (unless I increase the
> netdev_max_backlog which just delays the inevitable dropping).
>
> I believe the T1/ATM interface is working fine, I found the source
> of the dropped packets in /proc/net/softnet_stat so that made me
> wonder if the kernel was simply not keeping up.
>
> Should I expect to see this kind of loss with a 2.4 kernel?
> Is it just a matter of tweaking some more networking related parameters?
> Should I be using another distribution of kernel source?

I think you have to work on network driver, make it use NAPI
(http://www.usenix.org/publications/library/proceedings/als01/jamal.html)
and this _may_ help. Using very slow processor without NAPI-enabled
net driver is the main cause of big packet loss on RX path.

--
Eugene

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