video card for Lite5200

video card for Lite5200

[wangwenbin]

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Re: video card for Lite5200

[Gerhard Jaeger]

Hi,

On Friday 10 December 2004 02:33, wangwenbin wrote:
> Hi all
>=20
>    I have successfully boot Linux 2.4.22 on my Lite5200 Evaluation Board =
with the ELDK. but when I want to use PCI slot for the video card,something=
 goes wrong. The whole board loses supply of electricity. And i take the vi=
deo card out ,the board is still ok. So i change to put RTL81390 network ca=
rd into PCI slot. The same thing happen.
>     The video card i have tried :
>             S3 Trio64V
>             Trident TGUI9680
>             S3 ViRGE/DX
>    Then I ask the Freescale support, they tell me that these board can op=
erate in 5V slot only, While the PCI slot on Lite5200 only offers 3.3V. The=
se days though I search much information about vedio card. I still don't wh=
ich card can fit Lite5200.And I knew that the new CoralP PCI video card can=
 support Lite5200. Can I get it from market? Anyway I really worry about th=
is, so I turn here and ask your help.and I really appreciate your help! tha=
nks a lot! (There was something wrong with my mailbox,I could not receive t=
he letters these days.So I post it again)=20
>                Best Regards, =20
> 			   Tony Wang
> =E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80s=
tcwang@163.net

first of all, you need to take care of the PCI cards you use. As the Freesc=
ale support and=20
also the manuals say: "Only 3.3V compliant PCI cards". In the meantime ther=
e are quite a lot
of burned-out boards because of "wrong" cards.
Next problem with the PCI bus on this board is, that because of some timing=
 issues not all=20
cards will be detected, so it'll be hard to find a video card, that matches=
 these requirements.
The only card that I know, which seems to work AND is somehow supported is =
a CORAL-P evaluation=20
board from Fujitsu. But this one is rather expensive.=20
I tried also and old Nvidia Riva 128 card, which was detected correctly, bu=
t is not
initialized correctly by the framebuffer driver.

Regards,
Gerhard

=2D-=20
Gerhard Jaeger <gjaeger@sysgo.com>           =20
SYSGO AG                      Embedded and Real-Time Software
www.sysgo.com | www.elinos.com | www.osek.de | www.imerva.com

Re: video card for Lite5200

[Clemens Koller]

Hello, Tony!

>>   I have successfully boot Linux 2.4.22 on my Lite5200 Evaluation Boar=
d with the ELDK. but when I want to use PCI slot for the video card,somet=
hing goes wrong. The whole board loses supply of electricity. And i take =
the video card out ,the board is still ok. So i change to put RTL81390 ne=
twork card into PCI slot. The same thing happen.
>>    The video card i have tried :
>>            S3 Trio64V
>>            Trident TGUI9680
>>            S3 ViRGE/DX

Don't use old (5V only) cards, the S3 drivers might be unmaintained for=20
your platform, too. If you want to integrate video into your final
system, you might want to check out some embedded solutions.

>>   Then I ask the Freescale support, they tell me that these board can =
operate in 5V slot only, While the PCI slot on Lite5200 only offers 3.3V.=
 These days though I search much information about vedio card. I still do=
n't which card can fit Lite5200.And I knew that the new CoralP PCI video =
card can support Lite5200. Can I get it from market? Anyway I really worr=
y about this, so I turn here and ask your help.and I really appreciate yo=
ur help! thanks a lot! (There was something wrong with my mailbox,I could=
 not receive the letters these days.So I post it again)=20
>>               Best Regards, =20
>>			   Tony Wang
>>=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=E3=80=80=
stcwang@163.net
>=20
>=20
> first of all, you need to take care of the PCI cards you use. As the Fr=
eescale support and=20
> also the manuals say: "Only 3.3V compliant PCI cards". In the meantime =
there are quite a lot
> of burned-out boards because of "wrong" cards.
> Next problem with the PCI bus on this board is, that because of some ti=
ming issues not all=20
> cards will be detected, so it'll be hard to find a video card, that mat=
ches these requirements.
> The only card that I know, which seems to work AND is somehow supported=
 is a CORAL-P evaluation=20
> board from Fujitsu. But this one is rather expensive.=20
> I tried also and old Nvidia Riva 128 card, which was detected correctly=
, but is not
> initialized correctly by the framebuffer driver.
 >
 > Regards,
 > Gerhard
 >

Yes, the Fujitsu Coral P should work also.
I use a Silicon Motion Inc. SM501 Voyager GX PCI Demo Board right now=20
which is supposed to work with all the embedded systems. You can get
that board for about EUR 495.- in Germany.
I am currently working on the framebuffer drivers for the Voyager on=20
PPC. Things seem to make good progress, here (there is an image on=20
screen :-). There is also an Epson or Asilient solution for embedded=20
systems, maybe you can check that also. YMMV

Best greets,

--=20
Clemens Koller
_______________________________
R&D Imaging Devices
Anagramm GmbH
Rupert-Mayer-Str. 45/1
81379 Muenchen
Germany

http://www.anagramm.de
Phone: +49-89-741518-50
Fax: +49-89-741518-19

Re: video card for Lite5200

[Andrey Volkov]

Hello Clemens,

Friday, December 10, 2004, 1:34:47 PM, you wrote:

> Yes, the Fujitsu Coral P should work also.
> I use a Silicon Motion Inc. SM501 Voyager GX PCI Demo Board right now
> which is supposed to work with all the embedded systems. You can get
> that board for about EUR 495.- in Germany.
> I am currently working on the framebuffer drivers for the Voyager on
> PPC. Things seem to make good progress, here (there is an image on 
> screen :-). There is also an Epson or Asilient solution for embedded
> systems, maybe you can check that also. YMMV

Could you send me your kernel .config file for SM501?
I try use it too, but kernel (2.6.10-rc2) always restarting,
I think I forget, as usually, something somewhere :(.

And, Clemens, how about PCI bug of MPC5200 and SM501 (PCI clock to
Signal Valid Delay)? Are you doing something with demo board? Or it
working ok from box?

-- 
Best regards,
 Andrey Volkov

Re: video card for Lite5200

[Mark Jonas]

Hello Tony,

>   I have successfully boot Linux 2.4.22 on my Lite5200 Evaluation Board with the ELDK. but when I want to use PCI slot for the video card,something goes wrong. The whole board loses supply of electricity. And i take the video card out ,the board is still ok. So i change to put RTL81390 network card into PCI slot. The same thing happen.
>    The video card i have tried :
>            S3 Trio64V
>            Trident TGUI9680
>            S3 ViRGE/DX
>  
>
According to my experience with the Lite5200 board there are three
things that might have gone wrong in your experiments:

1.) You plugged in a 5V-only card. Make sure your card 3.3V compliant.
Check that by looking at the data sheet _and_ by looking a the PCI
card's edge connector. The coding gap must be in to the front of the card.

2.) You plugged in a card which claims to be 3.3V PCI compliant card but
is not. Even if the coding gap marks it as 3.3V compliant I've seen
cards before that aren't. They usually make a short between V I/O and +5
VDC which results in what you can see: The power supply goes into
protection.

3.) You placed the PCI card into the PCI slot turned by 180 degrees.
That also usually results in a short and the power supply goes into
protection. Please consult the Lite5200's user manual and make sure you
plug in the card the right way.

If had to make a bet what your problem is I would put my money on 3. I
think so because RTL8139 cards are usually 3.3V compliant. Additionally,
the graphics cards you mentioned are usually not 3.3V compliant but if
you turn them by 180 degrees their coding gap will fit.

Regards
Mark