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From: Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Tolunay Orkun <listmember@orkun.us>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] Option to disable mapping genrtc calls to ppc_md calls
Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:33:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20050118183337.GK28724@smtp.west.cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <41ED49E2.5050401@orkun.us>

On Tue, Jan 18, 2005 at 11:39:46AM -0600, Tolunay Orkun wrote:
> Dan Malek wrote:
> >
> >On Jan 18, 2005, at 11:15 AM, Tom Rini wrote:
> >
> >>On Mon, Jan 17, 2005 at 02:10:00PM -0700, Mark A. Greer wrote:
> >
> >
> >>>There are 2 reasons to not use the ppc_md.get_rtc_time() et. al. 
> >>>interfaces:
> >>>1) They are called before the i2c driver is initialized and even loaded
> >>>if its a module.
> >
> >
> >There are three reasons.  You don't want to use an I2c rtc clock at
> >all in these functions because they get can get called from the
> >clock interrupt to update the time in the rtc.  If it does happen to work,
> >it creates long latencies in the timer interrupt.  If the i2c requires an
> >interrupt, they system will crash or hang.
> >
> >A system using an I2C RTC should find some way to access the
> >clock from application space as a standard I2C device and manage
> >time/clock from the application, not from the kernel.
> 
> This is exactly what I've done for our PPC405GP based Linux port 
> (2.4.25). I've written a clone of hwclock utility using /dev/i2c0 to 
> access Dallas RTC chip with I2C interface. I setthe system clock from 
> RTC within /etc/rcS (Busybox). It is less than perfect as early logs 
> have the date wrong but it was the direction of least resistance.
> 
> Still, I think there should be a better standardized RTC interface to 
> help deal with I2C/SMBus based RTC chips.

There kind of is now, arch/arm/common/rtctime.c (thought of for I2C RTCs
and has alarm support).

-- 
Tom Rini
http://gate.crashing.org/~trini/

  reply	other threads:[~2005-01-18 18:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-01-17 21:10 [RFC] Option to disable mapping genrtc calls to ppc_md calls Mark A. Greer
2005-01-18  9:20 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-01-18 18:40   ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-18 19:01     ` Eugene Surovegin
2005-01-18 16:15 ` Tom Rini
2005-01-18 16:25   ` Dan Malek
2005-01-18 17:39     ` Tolunay Orkun
2005-01-18 18:33       ` Tom Rini [this message]
2005-01-18 18:13     ` Tom Rini
2005-01-18 18:58       ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-18 19:08         ` Tom Rini
2005-01-18 19:43           ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-19 18:08             ` Tom Rini
2005-01-20 20:52               ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-20 22:53                 ` Tom Rini
2005-01-20 23:21                   ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-20 23:47                     ` Tom Rini
2005-01-20 23:56                       ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-18 18:54     ` Eugene Surovegin
2005-01-20 22:27     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-18 18:55   ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-18 19:05     ` Tom Rini
2005-01-18 19:33       ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-20 22:25 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-20 23:54   ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-21  0:01     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-21  0:09       ` Mark A. Greer
2005-01-21  0:12         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-21  9:14           ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2005-01-21 14:39             ` Corey Minyard
2005-01-21 22:01             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2005-01-21  9:44         ` Christoph Hellwig

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