* [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained @ 2005-07-27 15:32 Kumar Gala 2005-07-27 16:13 ` Michael Richardson 2005-07-27 19:57 ` Andrew Morton 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-27 15:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linux-kernel, linuxppc-embedded The following board ports are no longer maintained or have become obsolete: adir ash beech cedar ep405 k2 mcpn765 menf1 oak pcore rainier redwood sm850 spd823ts We are there for removing support for them. - Kumar ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 15:32 [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-27 16:13 ` Michael Richardson 2005-07-27 16:27 ` Eugene Surovegin 2005-07-27 19:57 ` Andrew Morton 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Michael Richardson @ 2005-07-27 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kumar Gala; +Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, linuxppc-embedded -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Kumar, I thought that we had some volunteers to take care of some of those. I know that I still care about ep405, and I'm willing to maintain the code. - -- ] Michael Richardson Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON | firewalls [ ] mcr @ xelerance.com Now doing IPsec training, see |net architect[ ] http://www.sandelman.ca/mcr/ www.xelerance.com/training/ |device driver[ ] I'm a dad: http://www.sandelman.ca/lrmr/ [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBQueyoYqHRg3pndX9AQEUPwQA5mlU9YM5UUnJtJiuh074MOblFu0+Eu2e dyE8e8VPkfPdHuc4UZxZUIwoGQm37PXA+Wtu8W/FYeXBkvW9or7mvGgN5kYYp7iI 2Gu2Kk+qhmhO5sK107Sf7pS/FWkXR3hQ80oOcZQ3ow4GaA6zcpIj7IDvl2qoFgkX xKLAGhjY+6c= =GR1d -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 16:13 ` Michael Richardson @ 2005-07-27 16:27 ` Eugene Surovegin 2005-07-27 17:15 ` Matt Porter 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Eugene Surovegin @ 2005-07-27 16:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Richardson Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, Kumar Gala, linuxppc-embedded On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:13:23PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > Kumar, I thought that we had some volunteers to take care of some of > those. I know that I still care about ep405, and I'm willing to maintain > the code. Well, it has been almost two months since Kumar asked about maintenance for this board. Nothing happened since then. Why is it not fixed yet? Please, send a patch which fixes it. This is the _best_ way to keep this board in the tree, not some empty maintenance _promises_. -- Eugene ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 16:27 ` Eugene Surovegin @ 2005-07-27 17:15 ` Matt Porter 2005-07-27 23:34 ` Kumar Gala 2005-07-29 17:03 ` Esben Nielsen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Matt Porter @ 2005-07-27 17:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Richardson, Kumar Gala, Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, linuxppc-embedded On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:27:41AM -0700, Eugene Surovegin wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:13:23PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Kumar, I thought that we had some volunteers to take care of some of > > those. I know that I still care about ep405, and I'm willing to maintain > > the code. > > Well, it has been almost two months since Kumar asked about maintenance > for this board. Nothing happened since then. > > Why is it not fixed yet? Please, send a patch which fixes it. This is > the _best_ way to keep this board in the tree, not some empty > maintenance _promises_. When we recover our history from the linuxppc-2.4/2.5 trees we can show exactly how long it's been since anybody touched ep405. Quick googling shows that it's been almost 2 years since the last mention of ep405 (exluding removal discussions) on linuxppc-embedded. Last ep405-related commits are more than 2 years ago. -Matt ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 17:15 ` Matt Porter @ 2005-07-27 23:34 ` Kumar Gala 2005-07-29 16:33 ` Michael Richardson 2005-07-29 17:03 ` Esben Nielsen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-27 23:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matt Porter Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, Gala Kumar K.-galak, linuxppc-embedded On Jul 27, 2005, at 12:15 PM, Matt Porter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:27:41AM -0700, Eugene Surovegin wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:13:23PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: >> >>> Kumar, I thought that we had some volunteers to take care of some of >>> those. I know that I still care about ep405, and I'm willing to >>> > maintain > >>> the code. >>> >> >> Well, it has been almost two months since Kumar asked about >> > maintenance > >> for this board. Nothing happened since then. >> >> Why is it not fixed yet? Please, send a patch which fixes it. This is >> the _best_ way to keep this board in the tree, not some empty >> maintenance _promises_. >> > > When we recover our history from the linuxppc-2.4/2.5 trees we can > show exactly how long it's been since anybody touched ep405. > > Quick googling shows that it's been almost 2 years since the last > mention of ep405 (exluding removal discussions) on linuxppc-embedded. > Last ep405-related commits are more than 2 years ago. So we are ok with it being removed. This seems to be the only board port that I removed that has caused any noise. - kumar ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 23:34 ` Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-29 16:33 ` Michael Richardson 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Michael Richardson @ 2005-07-29 16:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kumar Gala Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, kyle, Gala Kumar K.-galak, linuxppc-embedded -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>> "Kumar" == Kumar Gala <kumar.gala@freescale.com> writes: >> When we recover our history from the linuxppc-2.4/2.5 trees we >> can show exactly how long it's been since anybody touched ep405. >> >> Quick googling shows that it's been almost 2 years since the last >> mention of ep405 (exluding removal discussions) on >> linuxppc-embedded. Last ep405-related commits are more than 2 >> years ago. So, I'll bet I can find other parts of the kernel tree that haven't been touched in 2 years. Maybe there isn't anything to fix? Happens that in our case, a) the board is the basis to our own board. b) we only moved to 2.6 in May. So, I just don't get removing board support files. - -- ] Michael Richardson Xelerance Corporation, Ottawa, ON | firewalls [ ] mcr @ xelerance.com Now doing IPsec training, see |net architect[ ] http://www.sandelman.ca/mcr/ www.xelerance.com/training/ |device driver[ ] I'm a dad: http://www.sandelman.ca/lrmr/ [ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Finger me for keys iQCVAwUBQupaXIqHRg3pndX9AQFnGQP+JXX0ZTKW35LljC/ighUPpmcdClRlmWP2 fsnofXYNi2v9QEkYpoS8pHMc3ClKHT8MFzK/nsDe1CFWPxxavK+365usf77DSGWB bjZ8CZWjkvDt7IMjBxEnSlzCTVt39Gtjq1zM/DMY0SOi1ccB7TIZE+1Ol3zkYnW5 2X6+0SKgS6Q= =kcQj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 17:15 ` Matt Porter 2005-07-27 23:34 ` Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-29 17:03 ` Esben Nielsen 2005-07-29 18:10 ` Kumar Gala 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Esben Nielsen @ 2005-07-29 17:03 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Matt Porter; +Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, Kumar Gala, linuxppc-embedded On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Matt Porter wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:27:41AM -0700, Eugene Surovegin wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:13:23PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: > > > Kumar, I thought that we had some volunteers to take care of some of > > > those. I know that I still care about ep405, and I'm willing to maintain > > > the code. > > > > Well, it has been almost two months since Kumar asked about maintenance > > for this board. Nothing happened since then. > > > > Why is it not fixed yet? Please, send a patch which fixes it. This is > > the _best_ way to keep this board in the tree, not some empty > > maintenance _promises_. > > When we recover our history from the linuxppc-2.4/2.5 trees we can > show exactly how long it's been since anybody touched ep405. > > Quick googling shows that it's been almost 2 years since the last > mention of ep405 (exluding removal discussions) on linuxppc-embedded. > Last ep405-related commits are more than 2 years ago. > I don't follow that reasoning. Even broken drivers(board support files, whateever) are better than non. Take ArcNet support forinstance. Clearly it hadn't been used in any 2.6 kernel up until around 2.6.10. It was highly broken (call to uninitialized function pointer). But I needed it. I fixed it and send the patch so it works from 2.6.11 and up. If the driver had been dropped in the 2.6 series because nobody actively maintained it, I wouldn't have got around to fix it at all and was probably forced to use another OS for my perpose. But because the driver was still in there and somebody had made sure it was updated along the changes to the API in the 2.6 kernel, it was easy for me to fix it although I didn't know so much about the kernel internals at that time. Esben ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-29 17:03 ` Esben Nielsen @ 2005-07-29 18:10 ` Kumar Gala 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-29 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Esben Nielsen Cc: Andrew Morton, linux-kernel, Gala Kumar K.-galak, linuxppc-embedded On Jul 29, 2005, at 12:03 PM, Esben Nielsen wrote: > > > On Wed, 27 Jul 2005, Matt Porter wrote: > > >> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 09:27:41AM -0700, Eugene Surovegin wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 12:13:23PM -0400, Michael Richardson wrote: >>> >>>> Kumar, I thought that we had some volunteers to take care of some >>>> > of > >>>> those. I know that I still care about ep405, and I'm willing to >>>> > maintain > >>>> the code. >>>> >>> >>> Well, it has been almost two months since Kumar asked about >>> > maintenance > >>> for this board. Nothing happened since then. >>> >>> Why is it not fixed yet? Please, send a patch which fixes it. This >>> > is > >>> the _best_ way to keep this board in the tree, not some empty >>> maintenance _promises_. >>> >> >> When we recover our history from the linuxppc-2.4/2.5 trees we can >> show exactly how long it's been since anybody touched ep405. >> >> Quick googling shows that it's been almost 2 years since the last >> mention of ep405 (exluding removal discussions) on linuxppc-embedded. >> Last ep405-related commits are more than 2 years ago. >> >> > I don't follow that reasoning. Even broken drivers(board support > files, > whateever) are better than non. > > Take ArcNet support forinstance. Clearly it hadn't been used in any > 2.6 > kernel up until around 2.6.10. It was highly broken (call to > uninitialized function pointer). But I needed it. I fixed it and send > the > patch so it works from 2.6.11 and up. If the driver had been > dropped in > the 2.6 series because nobody actively maintained it, I wouldn't have > got > around to fix it at all and was probably forced to use another OS > for my > perpose. > > But because the driver was still in there and somebody had made > sure it > was updated along the changes to the API in the 2.6 kernel, it was > easy > for me to fix it although I didn't know so much about the kernel > internals > at that time. The code will still exist in older kernel releases so if someone needs to bring it up to date they can. We are more than willing to take patches to fix any issues. Let's be clear. I posted a request several weeks ago in which anyone was free to comment on the various board ports that existed and their maintainership. - kumar ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 15:32 [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained Kumar Gala 2005-07-27 16:13 ` Michael Richardson @ 2005-07-27 19:57 ` Andrew Morton 2005-07-27 23:35 ` Kumar Gala ` (2 more replies) 1 sibling, 3 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Andrew Morton @ 2005-07-27 19:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kumar Gala; +Cc: linux-kernel, linuxppc-embedded Kumar Gala <galak@freescale.com> wrote: > > The following board ports are no longer maintained or have become > obsolete: > > adir > ash > beech > cedar > ep405 > k2 > mcpn765 > menf1 > oak > pcore > rainier > redwood > sm850 > spd823ts > > We are there for removing support for them. I'll merge all these into -mm for now, but will hold off sending any of them upstream pending confirmation of which patches we really want to proceed with. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 19:57 ` Andrew Morton @ 2005-07-27 23:35 ` Kumar Gala 2005-07-31 16:39 ` Kumar Gala 2005-08-30 1:46 ` Kumar Gala 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-27 23:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linux-kernel, Gala Kumar K.-galak, linuxppc-embedded On Jul 27, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Morton wrote: > Kumar Gala <galak@freescale.com> wrote: > >> >> The following board ports are no longer maintained or have become >> obsolete: >> >> adir >> ash >> beech >> cedar >> ep405 >> k2 >> mcpn765 >> menf1 >> oak >> pcore >> rainier >> redwood >> sm850 >> spd823ts >> >> We are there for removing support for them. >> > > I'll merge all these into -mm for now, but will hold off sending > any of > them upstream pending confirmation of which patches we really want to > proceed with. Sounds good. We will get to some resolution on the ep405 which seems the be the only system that people are making noise on today. - kumar ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 19:57 ` Andrew Morton 2005-07-27 23:35 ` Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-31 16:39 ` Kumar Gala 2005-08-30 1:46 ` Kumar Gala 2 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Kumar Gala @ 2005-07-31 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Morton Cc: linux-kernel list, Gala Kumar K.-galak, linuxppc-embedded Linux list Andrew, Can you drop the ep405 removal patch. We've got someone to take ownership. - kumar On Jul 27, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Morton wrote: > Kumar Gala <galak@freescale.com> wrote: > >> >> The following board ports are no longer maintained or have become >> obsolete: >> >> adir >> ash >> beech >> cedar >> ep405 >> k2 >> mcpn765 >> menf1 >> oak >> pcore >> rainier >> redwood >> sm850 >> spd823ts >> >> We are there for removing support for them. >> > > I'll merge all these into -mm for now, but will hold off sending > any of > them upstream pending confirmation of which patches we really want to > proceed with. > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-07-27 19:57 ` Andrew Morton 2005-07-27 23:35 ` Kumar Gala 2005-07-31 16:39 ` Kumar Gala @ 2005-08-30 1:46 ` Kumar Gala 2005-08-30 7:44 ` Eugene Surovegin 2 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Kumar Gala @ 2005-08-30 1:46 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linux-kernel, Gala Kumar K.-galak, linuxppc-embedded On Jul 27, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Morton wrote: > Kumar Gala <galak@freescale.com> wrote: > >> >> The following board ports are no longer maintained or have become >> obsolete: >> >> adir >> ash >> beech >> cedar >> ep405 >> k2 >> mcpn765 >> menf1 >> oak >> pcore >> rainier >> redwood >> sm850 >> spd823ts >> >> We are there for removing support for them. >> > > I'll merge all these into -mm for now, but will hold off sending > any of > them upstream pending confirmation of which patches we really want to > proceed with. No one has screamed about anything but ep405 so all the others should go to Linus now. - kumar ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH 00/14] ppc32: Remove board ports that are no longer maintained 2005-08-30 1:46 ` Kumar Gala @ 2005-08-30 7:44 ` Eugene Surovegin 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Eugene Surovegin @ 2005-08-30 7:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Kumar Gala; +Cc: Andrew Morton, Gala Kumar K.-galak, linuxppc-embedded On Mon, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:46:22PM -0500, Kumar Gala wrote: > > On Jul 27, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Andrew Morton wrote: > > >Kumar Gala <galak@freescale.com> wrote: > > > >> > >>The following board ports are no longer maintained or have become > >> obsolete: > >> > >> adir > >> ash > >> beech > >> cedar > >> ep405 > >> k2 > >> mcpn765 > >> menf1 > >> oak > >> pcore > >> rainier > >> redwood > >> sm850 > >> spd823ts > >> > >> We are there for removing support for them. > >> > > > >I'll merge all these into -mm for now, but will hold off sending > >any of > >them upstream pending confirmation of which patches we really want to > >proceed with. > > No one has screamed about anything but ep405 so all the others should > go to Linus now. Matt told me he would probably get ash soon. There is even a path in the -mm queue which should fix ethernet on this board. Matt? -- Eugene ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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