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From: Tom Rini <trini@kernel.crashing.org>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, g.liakhovetski@gmx.de,
	Milton Miller <miltonm@bga.com>
Subject: Re: RFC: Location for Device Tree Sources?
Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2006 10:54:18 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060804175418.GA28095@smtp.west.cox.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17618.53692.364647.412406@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Fri, Aug 04, 2006 at 02:49:00PM +1000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Tom Rini writes:
> 
> > But "content requirements change" isn't the same as "left things out of
> > their tree".  It sounds, and I haven't seen the changes, so I'm not
> > certain that the meaning behind a field changed.  Something like that
> > should change the dt version.
> 
> I disagree.  Strongly.  The dt version relates to the representation
> of the tree, not its content.

But doesn't the representation include meaning?

> If we *have* to change the meaning of a property value in a particular
> node in an incompatible way, then we can do something such as adding
> another property to indicate what the interpretation of the first
> property value should be.  Usually it's possible to find a way around
> the problem without resorting to that, though.

Agreed.  Kicking myself for not being explicit enough :)

> >  New fields aren't a problem.  Changing
> > existing fields meaning in incompatible ways is a problem.
> 
> Only a minor, localized problem.  Nothing worth changing the whole dt
> version number for.

I'll rephrase what I said to what I think we all agree.  Changing
existing fields meanings in incompatible ways and not somehow allowing
that to still work (like by adding a flag so new trees are interpreted
one way, old trees are fixed-up or whatever) is a problem.

-- 
Tom Rini

  reply	other threads:[~2006-08-04 17:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-08-03  9:32 RFC: Location for Device Tree Sources? Milton Miller
2006-08-03 13:54 ` Tom Rini
2006-08-03 16:30   ` Milton Miller
2006-08-04  4:49   ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-04 17:54     ` Tom Rini [this message]
2006-08-04 23:29       ` Paul Mackerras
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-01 20:32 Jon Loeliger
2006-08-01 21:00 ` Guennadi Liakhovetski
2006-08-01 21:01   ` Matthew McClintock
2006-08-02  0:35     ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-02  0:42       ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-02  1:12       ` Josh Boyer
2006-08-02  3:20         ` Grant Likely
2006-08-02 13:35           ` Kumar Gala
2006-08-02 16:38             ` Tom Rini
2006-08-02 18:09               ` Matthew McClintock
2006-08-02 18:16                 ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-08-02 18:21                 ` Tom Rini
2006-08-02 18:23                   ` Jon Loeliger
2006-08-02 18:57                     ` Tom Rini
2006-08-02 20:06                       ` Kumar Gala
2006-08-03 14:49                         ` Li Yang
2006-08-03 15:47               ` Li Yang
2006-08-02 18:24             ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-02 18:23           ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-02 18:21             ` Grant Likely
2006-08-02 18:49               ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-02 19:03                 ` Josh Boyer
2006-08-02 19:26                   ` Kumar Gala
2006-08-02 18:22         ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-02 18:22           ` Matthew McClintock
2006-08-02 18:42             ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-02 18:25           ` Jon Loeliger
2006-08-02 18:34             ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-02 18:41           ` Brent Cook
2006-08-02 18:51             ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-03  0:35               ` Tom Rini
2006-08-02  3:35       ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-08-04  4:51 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-08-09 11:18 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-08-09 12:56   ` Josh Boyer
2006-08-09 16:38     ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-09 16:48       ` Jon Loeliger
2006-08-09 17:03         ` Mark A. Greer
2006-08-09 14:03   ` Wolfgang Denk
2006-08-09 16:05     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-08-09 18:47       ` Andy Fleming
2006-08-09 19:17       ` Wolfgang Denk

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