From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: linas@austin.ibm.com
Cc: arnd@arndb.de, jklewis@us.ibm.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
Jens.Osterkamp@de.ibm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/4]: powerpc/cell spidernet low watermark patch.
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 15:51:16 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20060818.155116.112621100.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20060818224618.GN26889@austin.ibm.com>
From: linas@austin.ibm.com (Linas Vepstas)
Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:46:18 -0500
> > We're not saying to use the RX interrupt as the trigger for
> > RX and TX work. Rather, either of RX or TX interrupt will
> > schedule the NAPI poll.
>
> And, for a lark, this is exactly what I did. Just to see.
> Because there are so few ack packets, there are very few
> RX interrupts -- not enough to get NAPI to actually keep
> the device busy.
You're misreading me. TX interrupts are intended to be "enabled" and
trigger NAPI polls. TX IRQ enabled, enabled :-)
If you want to eliminate them if the kernel keeps hopping into
the ->hard_start_xmit() via hw interrupt mitigation or whatever,
that's fine. But if you do need to do TX interrupt processing,
do it in NAPI ->poll().
> I'm somewhat disoriened from this conversation. Its presumably
> clear that low-watermark mechanisms are superior to NAPI.
> >From what I gather, NAPI was invented to deal with cheap
> or low-function hardware; it adds nothing to this particular
> situation. Why are we talking about this?
NAPI is meant to give fairness to all devices receiving packets
in the system, particularly in times of high load or overload.
And equally importantly, it allows you to run the majority of your
interrupt handler in software IRQ context. This allows not only your
locking to be simpler, but it also allows things like oprofile to
monitor almost your entire IRQ processing path even with just timer
interrupt based oprofile profiling.
I see you moving TX reclaim into tasklets and stuff. I've vehemently
against that because you wouldn't need it in order to move TX
processing into software interrupts if you did it all in NAPI
->poll().
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-08-18 22:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-08-11 17:03 [PATCH 0/4]: powerpc/cell spidernet ethernet driver fixes Linas Vepstas
2006-08-11 17:06 ` [PATCH 1/4]: powerpc/cell spidernet burst alignment patch Linas Vepstas
2006-08-11 17:08 ` [PATCH 2/4]: powerpc/cell spidernet low watermark patch Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 23:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-08-18 19:23 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-18 21:25 ` David Miller
2006-08-18 22:46 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-18 22:51 ` David Miller [this message]
2006-08-18 23:29 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-18 23:45 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-19 4:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-08-22 0:13 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-22 0:30 ` David Miller
2006-08-19 4:31 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-08-11 17:09 ` [PATCH 3/4]: powerpc/cell spidernet stop error printing patch Linas Vepstas
2006-08-11 17:11 ` [PATCH 4/4]: powerpc/cell spidernet ethtool -i version number info Linas Vepstas
2006-08-11 18:00 ` Olof Johansson
2006-08-11 18:50 ` James K Lewis
2006-08-11 19:46 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-15 19:05 ` Olof Johansson
2006-08-16 0:29 ` Michael Ellerman
2006-08-11 17:42 ` [PATCH 0/4]: powerpc/cell spidernet ethernet driver fixes jschopp
2006-08-11 17:44 ` Sam Ravnborg
2006-08-11 19:31 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-11 20:27 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-16 16:18 ` [PATCH 1/2]: powerpc/cell spidernet bottom half Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 16:30 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-16 20:30 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 20:34 ` Jeff Garzik
2006-08-16 20:46 ` David Miller
2006-08-16 21:24 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-16 21:32 ` David Miller
2006-08-16 22:16 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-16 22:29 ` David Miller
2006-08-16 22:47 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-16 23:30 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 23:32 ` David Miller
2006-08-17 0:23 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 23:24 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 22:55 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 23:03 ` Arnd Bergmann
2006-08-16 23:47 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 23:08 ` Rick Jones
2006-08-16 21:58 ` Linas Vepstas
2006-08-16 16:23 ` [PATCH 2/2]: powerpc/cell spidernet refine locking Linas Vepstas
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