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From: Eugene Surovegin <ebs@ebshome.net>
To: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Cc: Olof Johansson <olof@lixom.net>, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 10/11] Add MPC8360EMDS board support
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2006 23:29:26 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20061005062926.GB1985@gate.ebshome.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <17700.20834.792693.853677@cargo.ozlabs.ibm.com>

On Thu, Oct 05, 2006 at 10:27:14AM +1000, Paul Mackerras wrote:
> Dan Malek writes:
> 
> > I'm not against using the device tree (or platform data
> > or #defines) when it's appropriate to do so.  I think our
> > obsession to represent everything there is what is
> > creating the complexity.  If a #define in a board
> > specific port file makes sense, then just do that,
> > even if it is a BSCR address.
> 
> So, where this discussion started was that I saw an ioremap in an
> ethernet driver using a physical address defined with #define, and I
> said "that should go in the device tree".  And I would still say that
> if the ioremap was still there, since the driver is one that is useful
> across a range of boards and chips.
> 
> My other point would be that what you say is valid *until* the
> hardware engineers come to you and say "we're doing rev 2 of the
> board, and we had to move the BCSR a bit.  That's OK with you, isn't
> it?".
> 
> If you have the BCSR address in the device tree, you don't even need
> to recompile your kernel.  You can just copy your board.dts to
> board-rev2.dts, change the address in there, and rerun the wrapper
> script to create the flash image to put on the new board.  Or if you
> are using a bootloader that knows how to supply a device-tree blob,
> you just put board-rev2.dtb into flash along with your existing kernel
> image.

Paul,

it doesn't really matter if you have to rebuild a kernel or some 
other blob and have it re-flashed in the actual board.

Having something in device tree doesn't change a simple fact that you 
have to update some firmware component, be it boot code, kernel or 
some dts blob. You still have to prepare new flash image, period.

-- 
Eugene

  reply	other threads:[~2006-10-05  6:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-09-21 12:20 [PATCH 10/11] Add MPC8360EMDS board support Li Yang
2006-09-27  6:39 ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-27 11:56   ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-09-27 12:02     ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-09-27 12:55       ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-09-27 13:09         ` Ben Warren
2006-09-27 13:20         ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-09-27 13:33           ` Kumar Gala
2006-09-28  6:12             ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-09-30  0:49             ` Paul Mackerras
2006-09-27 14:14           ` Jon Loeliger
2006-09-28  6:38             ` Li Yang-r58472
2006-09-27 14:42         ` Dan Malek
2006-09-27 16:22           ` Olof Johansson
2006-09-28  4:10             ` Dan Malek
2006-09-30 15:56               ` Li Yang
2006-10-04  0:40               ` Paul Mackerras
2006-10-04 13:53                 ` Dan Malek
2006-10-04 17:28                   ` Tim Bird
2006-10-05  0:27                   ` Paul Mackerras
2006-10-05  6:29                     ` Eugene Surovegin [this message]
2006-10-04  6:08               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-04 14:48                 ` Dan Malek
2006-10-04 23:36                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-05  0:03                     ` Paul Mackerras
2006-10-05  0:08                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-05  0:16                       ` Vitaly Bordug
2006-10-05  6:21                     ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-10-05  6:26                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-05  6:31                         ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-10-05  6:33                         ` Eugene Surovegin
2006-10-05  6:51                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-04  5:52           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2006-10-04 14:57             ` Dan Malek
2006-10-04 16:05               ` Jerry Van Baren
2006-09-27 14:57         ` Sergei Shtylyov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-09-27 13:54 Joakim Tjernlund

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