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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: segher@kernel.crashing.org
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, paulus@samba.org, sfr@canb.auug.org.au
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/6] [POWERPC] make struct property's value a void *
Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2007 12:21:29 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070404.122129.45875882.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19e36144f9d496f2a9670ac889435349@kernel.crashing.org>

From: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 13:11:43 +0200

> >> Why?  It should logically be an u8 * (and nothing
> >> should ever cast it to anything else, accessor
> >> functions should be used instead to get 32-bit ints
> >> from it, etc.)
> >
> > Ummm, no.
> >
> > There are structures there, and other types of objects.
> 
> There are arrays of bytes there, with no guarantee of
> any further alignment.

On PowerPC misaligned data doesn't generate exceptions, the chip works
it out transparently.  It's not very slow at it even, and these paths
accessing this stuff aren't performance critical anyways.

On sparc everything is aligned.  I know, I've been accessing OFW data
structures for more than 10 years and I haven't gotten one unaligned
trap on sparc yet.

> So just do an of_decode_int() and its cousins -- platforms
> that are trying to guarantee alignment, or that can handle
> unaligned memory accesses, can just define these as direct
> accesses; everyone else should use the read-by-byte sequences.

No, that's just stupid.  Peppering simple accesses to properties
with these wrappers is just going to make the code uglier for
no tangible gain whatsoever.

There is no reason to make a mountain out of a mole hill wrt. this
stuff.

And besides what Stephen is doing is just extending existing
practice, he isn't changing how any of this stuff is already
used.  So this discussion should not get in the way of his
patches getting installed.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-04-04 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-04-03  0:52 [PATCH 1/6] [POWERPC] get_property returns const Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03  0:54 ` [PATCH 2/6] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03  0:55   ` [PATCH 3/6] [POWERPC] Rename device_is_compatible to of_device_is_compatible Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03  0:56     ` [PATCH 4/6] [POWERPC] Rename prom_n_addr_cells to of_n_addr_cells Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03  0:57       ` [PATCH 5/6] [POWERPC] Rename prom_n_size_cells to of_n_size_cells Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03  0:58         ` [PATCH 6/6] [POWERPC] make struct property's value a void * Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03  3:37           ` David Miller
2007-04-03 15:40             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-03 12:24           ` [PATCH 01/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: include Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:26             ` [PATCH 02/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: arch/powerpc/kernel Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:28               ` [PATCH 03/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: arch/powerpc/mm Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:30                 ` [PATCH 04/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: arch/powerpc/sysdev Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:31                   ` [PATCH 05/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: arch/powerpc/platforms/pseries Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:32                     ` [PATCH 06/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: arch/powerpc/platforms/powermac Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:35                       ` [PATCH 07/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: arch/powerpc/platforms/cell Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:37                         ` [PATCH 08/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: arch/powerpc/platforms Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:39                           ` [PATCH 09/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: sound Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:40                             ` [PATCH 10/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: drivers/macintosh Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:42                               ` [PATCH 11/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: drivers/char Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:43                                 ` [PATCH 12/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: drivers/net Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:45                                   ` [PATCH 13/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: drivers/video Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:46                                     ` [PATCH 14/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: drivers/scsi Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:49                                       ` [PATCH 15/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: drivers Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:50                                         ` [PATCH 16/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: the last one Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 12:52                                           ` [PATCH 17/17] [POWERPC] Remove get_property Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 13:05                                             ` [PATCH] [SPARC/64] " Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 13:24                                               ` [PATCH] [SPARC/64] Make device_node name and type const Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-12  4:19                                                 ` [PATCH,RFC] Split out common parts of prom.h Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-12  4:25                                                   ` David Miller
2007-04-12 16:13                                                     ` Kumar Gala
2007-04-12 19:19                                                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-12  5:34                                                   ` [PATCH] Start split out of common open firmware code Stephen Rothwell
     [not found]                                                     ` <20070424223245.78f4fdfb.sfr@canb.auug .org.au>
2007-04-12  5:41                                                     ` David Miller
2007-04-12  5:50                                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-12  6:25                                                       ` David Miller
2007-04-12  6:36                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-12  6:40                                                           ` David Miller
2007-04-12  7:00                                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-23  7:43                                                           ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-23 18:30                                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-24 12:32                                                     ` [PATCH 1/6] " Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-24 12:38                                                       ` [PATCH 2/6] Consolidate of_device_is_compatible Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-24 13:36                                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-24 23:59                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-25  4:23                                                           ` David Miller
2007-04-24 12:39                                                       ` [PATCH 3/6] Consolidate of_find_property Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-24 13:41                                                         ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25  1:43                                                           ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-25  2:10                                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25  4:31                                                             ` David Miller
2007-04-25  5:07                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-25 13:13                                                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25 17:46                                                                 ` Matt Sealey
2007-04-25 19:02                                                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25 22:16                                                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-25 22:24                                                                     ` David Miller
2007-04-25 22:47                                                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-25 23:13                                                                         ` David Miller
2007-04-25 23:18                                                                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25 23:28                                                                             ` David Miller
2007-04-25 23:21                                                                           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-26  5:54                                                                           ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-26  5:58                                                                             ` David Miller
2007-04-25  0:00                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-25  0:43                                                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25  1:12                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-25  2:03                                                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25  4:24                                                           ` David Miller
2007-04-24 12:40                                                       ` [PATCH 4/6] Consolidate of_get_parent Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-24 14:42                                                         ` Loeliger Jon-LOELIGER
2007-04-26  1:34                                                           ` Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-24 12:42                                                       ` [PATCH 5/6] Consolidate of_get_next_child Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-24 12:43                                                       ` [PATCH 6/6] Consolidate of_find_node_by routines Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-25  0:01                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 13:27                                                       ` [PATCH 1/6] Start split out of common open firmware code Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-24 14:47                                                         ` Loeliger Jon-LOELIGER
2007-04-24 18:04                                                           ` David Miller
2007-04-24 18:18                                                             ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-24 19:14                                                               ` Jon Loeliger
2007-04-25  0:07                                                             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-25  1:03                                                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25  4:29                                                                 ` David Miller
2007-04-25 13:11                                                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25  0:03                                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-25  0:50                                                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25  1:51                                                             ` Josh Boyer
2007-04-25  2:07                                                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-25  4:27                                                             ` David Miller
2007-04-25 13:07                                                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-24 23:35                                                       ` David Miller
2007-04-12  6:58                                                   ` [PATCH,RFC] Split out common parts of prom.h Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-12 21:41                                                 ` [PATCH] [SPARC/64] Make device_node name and type const David Miller
2007-04-12 21:42                                               ` [PATCH] [SPARC/64] Remove get_property David Miller
2007-04-27  3:41                                 ` [PATCH] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: partial drivers Stephen Rothwell
2007-04-03 17:36             ` [PATCH 01/17] [POWERPC] Rename get_property to of_get_property: include Olof Johansson
2007-04-05  1:49             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-03 15:39           ` [PATCH 6/6] [POWERPC] make struct property's value a void * Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-03 18:28             ` David Miller
2007-04-04 11:11               ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-04 19:21                 ` David Miller [this message]
2007-04-05  1:48                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-05 18:12                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-05 23:01                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-05 23:12                       ` David Miller
2007-04-05 23:26                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-09 18:20                         ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-09 22:11                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-04-09 23:17                           ` David Miller
2007-04-27  4:32 ` [PATCH] Partialially revert a7edd0e676d51145ae634a2acf7a447e319200fa Stephen Rothwell

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