From: linas@austin.ibm.com (Linas Vepstas)
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: "<Andrew Morton" <akpm@osdl.org>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
containers@lists.osdl.org, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@tv-sign.ru>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:24:48 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070424172448.GX31947@austin.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1177378733.14873.52.camel@localhost.localdomain>
On Tue, Apr 24, 2007 at 11:38:53AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > The only reason for using threads here is to get the error recovery
> > out of an interrupt context (where errors may be detected), and then,
> > an hour later, decrement a counter (which is how we limit these to
> > 6 per hour). Thread reaping is "trivial", the thread just exits
> > after an hour.
>
> In addition, it should be a thread and not done from within keventd
> because :
>
> - It can take a long time (well, relatively but still too long for a
> work queue)
Uhh, 15 or 20 seconds even. That's a long time by any kernel standard.
> - The driver callbacks might need to use keventd or do flush_workqueue
> to synchronize with their own workqueues when doing an internal
> recovery.
>
> > Since these are events rare, I've no particular concern about
> > performance or resource consumption. The current code seems
> > to work just fine. :-)
>
> I think moving to kthread's is cleaner (just a wrapper around kernel
> threads that simplify dealing with reaping them out mostly) and I agree
> with Christoph that it would be nice to be able to "fire off" kthreads
> from interrupt context.. in many cases, we abuse work queues for things
> that should really done from kthreads instead (basically anything that
> takes more than a couple hundred microsecs or so).
It would be nice to have threads that can be "fired off" from an
interrupt context. That would simplify the EEH code slightly
(removing a few dozen lines of code that do this bounce).
I presume that various device drivers might find this useful as well.
--linas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-04-24 17:24 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
[not found] <m1slawn9eb.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com>
[not found] ` <11769695763104-git-send-email-ebiederm@xmission.com>
2007-04-22 12:31 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-23 20:50 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-04-24 1:38 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 2:08 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 2:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 3:20 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 4:34 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 4:51 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 5:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 5:43 ` Eric W. Biederman
2007-04-24 5:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2007-04-24 6:17 ` SOME STUFF ABOUT REISER4 lkml777
2007-04-24 7:46 ` [PATCH] powerpc pseries eeh: Convert to kthread API Cornelia Huck
2007-04-24 17:24 ` Linas Vepstas [this message]
2007-04-24 5:55 ` Paul Mackerras
2007-04-24 8:37 ` Christoph Hellwig
2007-04-24 17:35 ` Linas Vepstas
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