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From: Nick Piggin <npiggin@suse.de>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 1/2] powerpc: rmb fix
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 05:15:06 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20070822031506.GA26374@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d9f43b5c31fde5851a7af1d0f36eb134@kernel.crashing.org>

On Tue, Aug 21, 2007 at 09:43:17PM +0200, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> >> #define mb()   __asm__ __volatile__ ("sync" : : : "memory")
> >>-#define rmb()  __asm__ __volatile__ (__stringify(LWSYNC) : : : 
> >>"memory")
> >>+#define rmb()  __asm__ __volatile__ ("sync" : : : "memory")
> >> #define wmb()  __asm__ __volatile__ ("sync" : : : "memory")
> >> #define read_barrier_depends()  do { } while(0)
> >>
> >>@@ -42,7 +42,7 @@
> >> #ifdef __KERNEL__
> >> #ifdef CONFIG_SMP
> >> #define smp_mb()	mb()
> >>-#define smp_rmb()	rmb()
> >>+#define smp_rmb()	__asm__ __volatile__ (__stringify(LWSYNC) : : : 
> >>"memory")
> >> #define smp_wmb()	eieio()
> >> #define smp_read_barrier_depends()	read_barrier_depends()
> >> #else
> >
> >I had to think about this one for awhile.  It looks at first glance to 
> >be the right
> >thing to do.  But I do wonder how long rmb() has been lwsync
> 
> Since the {ppc,ppc64} -> powerpc merge.
> 
> >and if as a practical matter that has caused any problems?
> 
> It has not as far as I know.
> 
> >If this isn't causing any problems maybe there
> >is some loigic we are overlooking?
> 
> The I/O accessor functions enforce the necessary ordering
> already I believe.

Hmm, I never followed those discussions last year about IO ordering, and
I can't see where (if) it was documented anywhere :(

It appears that legacy code is handled by defining the old IO accessors to
be completely ordered, and introducing new __raw_ variants that are not
(OTOH, it seems like other architectures are implementing __raw prefix as
inorder unless there is a _relaxed postfix).

Drivers are definitely using these __raw_ accessors, and from a quick
look, they do appear to be hoping that *mb() is going to order access for
them.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-22  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-21  2:11 [patch 1/2] powerpc: rmb fix Nick Piggin
2007-08-21  2:16 ` [patch 1/2] powerpc: smp_wmb speedup Nick Piggin
2007-08-21  2:21   ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-21 19:07 ` [patch 1/2] powerpc: rmb fix Joel Schopp
2007-08-21 19:43   ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-21 21:42     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-22  1:16     ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-22  3:29       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-22  3:55         ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-23 17:57           ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-24  2:47             ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-22  3:15     ` Nick Piggin [this message]
2007-08-22  3:33       ` Segher Boessenkool
2007-08-22  4:05         ` Nick Piggin
2007-08-23 17:49           ` Segher Boessenkool
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-05-21 14:10 Nick Piggin
2008-05-21 15:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-21 15:32   ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-21 15:43     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-05-23  2:14     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-23  4:40       ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23  4:53         ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-23  5:48           ` Nick Piggin
2008-05-23  6:40             ` Paul Mackerras
2008-05-26  1:38               ` Nick Piggin

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