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From: Jan-Bernd Themann <ossthema@de.ibm.com>
To: James Chapman <jchapman@katalix.com>
Cc: tklein@de.ibm.com, themann@de.ibm.com, stefan.roscher@de.ibm.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	raisch@de.ibm.com, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, akepner@sgi.com,
	meder@de.ibm.com, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:02:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708271802.48691.ossthema@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46D2F301.7050105@katalix.com>

On Monday 27 August 2007 17:51, James Chapman wrote:

> In the second half of my previous reply (which seems to have been 
> deleted), I suggest a way to avoid this problem without using hardware 
> interrupt mitigation / coalescing. Original text is quoted below.
> 
>  >> I've seen the same and I'm suggesting that the NAPI driver keeps
>  >> itself in polled mode for N polls or M jiffies after it sees
>  >> workdone=0. This has always worked for me in packet forwarding
>  >> scenarios to maximize packets/sec and minimize latency.
> 
> To implement this, there's no need for timers, hrtimers or generic NAPI 
> support that others have suggested. A driver's poll() would set an 
> internal flag and record the current jiffies value when finding 
> workdone=0 rather than doing an immediate napi_complete(). Early in 
> poll() it would test this flag and if set, do a low-cost test to see if 
> it had any work to do. If no work, it would check the saved jiffies 
> value and do the napi_complete() only if no work has been done for a 
> configurable number of jiffies. This keeps interrupts disabled longer at 
> the expense of many more calls to poll() where no work is done. So 
> critical to this scheme is modifying the driver's poll() to fastpath the 
> case of having no work to do while waiting for its local jiffy count to 
> expire.
> 

The problem I see with this approach is that the time that passes between
two jiffies might be too long for 10G ethernet adapters. (I tried to implement
a timer based approach with usual timers and the result was a disaster).
HW interrupts / or HP timer avoid the jiffy problem as they activate softIRQs
as soon as you call netif_rx_schedule. 

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-27 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-24 13:59 RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:37 ` akepner
2007-08-24 15:47   ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:52     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-24 16:50       ` David Stevens
2007-08-24 21:44         ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:51           ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 16:51       ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 17:07         ` Rick Jones
2007-08-24 17:45         ` Shirley Ma
2007-08-24 17:16       ` James Chapman
2007-08-24 18:11         ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:47         ` David Miller
2007-08-24 22:06           ` akepner
2007-08-26 19:36           ` James Chapman
2007-08-27  1:58             ` David Miller
2007-08-27  9:47               ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 20:37                 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 11:19                   ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:21                     ` David Miller
2007-08-29  7:10                       ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29  8:15                         ` James Chapman
2007-08-29  8:43                           ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29  8:29                         ` David Miller
2007-08-29  8:31                           ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 15:51               ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 16:02                 ` Jan-Bernd Themann [this message]
2007-08-27 17:05                   ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:02                 ` David Miller
2007-08-27 21:41                   ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:56                     ` David Miller
2007-08-28  9:22                       ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:48                         ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 12:16                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-28 14:55                           ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:21                   ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:25                     ` David Miller
2007-08-28 20:27                     ` David Miller
2007-08-24 16:45 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:43   ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:32 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:37 ` David Miller
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     [not found] ` <8VKwj-8ke-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-24 19:04   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-08-24 20:42     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:11       ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:35         ` Linas Vepstas

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