From: Jan-Bernd Themann <ossthema@de.ibm.com>
To: James Chapman <jchapman@katalix.com>
Cc: tklein@de.ibm.com, themann@de.ibm.com, stefan.roscher@de.ibm.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
raisch@de.ibm.com, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, akepner@sgi.com,
meder@de.ibm.com, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:02:47 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708271802.48691.ossthema@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46D2F301.7050105@katalix.com>
On Monday 27 August 2007 17:51, James Chapman wrote:
> In the second half of my previous reply (which seems to have been
> deleted), I suggest a way to avoid this problem without using hardware
> interrupt mitigation / coalescing. Original text is quoted below.
>
> >> I've seen the same and I'm suggesting that the NAPI driver keeps
> >> itself in polled mode for N polls or M jiffies after it sees
> >> workdone=0. This has always worked for me in packet forwarding
> >> scenarios to maximize packets/sec and minimize latency.
>
> To implement this, there's no need for timers, hrtimers or generic NAPI
> support that others have suggested. A driver's poll() would set an
> internal flag and record the current jiffies value when finding
> workdone=0 rather than doing an immediate napi_complete(). Early in
> poll() it would test this flag and if set, do a low-cost test to see if
> it had any work to do. If no work, it would check the saved jiffies
> value and do the napi_complete() only if no work has been done for a
> configurable number of jiffies. This keeps interrupts disabled longer at
> the expense of many more calls to poll() where no work is done. So
> critical to this scheme is modifying the driver's poll() to fastpath the
> case of having no work to do while waiting for its local jiffy count to
> expire.
>
The problem I see with this approach is that the time that passes between
two jiffies might be too long for 10G ethernet adapters. (I tried to implement
a timer based approach with usual timers and the result was a disaster).
HW interrupts / or HP timer avoid the jiffy problem as they activate softIRQs
as soon as you call netif_rx_schedule.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-27 16:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-24 13:59 RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:37 ` akepner
2007-08-24 15:47 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-24 16:50 ` David Stevens
2007-08-24 21:44 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:51 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 16:51 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 17:07 ` Rick Jones
2007-08-24 17:45 ` Shirley Ma
2007-08-24 17:16 ` James Chapman
2007-08-24 18:11 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:47 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 22:06 ` akepner
2007-08-26 19:36 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 1:58 ` David Miller
2007-08-27 9:47 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 20:37 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 11:19 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:21 ` David Miller
2007-08-29 7:10 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29 8:15 ` James Chapman
2007-08-29 8:43 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29 8:29 ` David Miller
2007-08-29 8:31 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 15:51 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 16:02 ` Jan-Bernd Themann [this message]
2007-08-27 17:05 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:02 ` David Miller
2007-08-27 21:41 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:56 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 9:22 ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:48 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 12:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-28 14:55 ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:21 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:25 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 20:27 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 16:45 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:43 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:32 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:37 ` David Miller
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[not found] ` <8VKwj-8ke-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-24 19:04 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-08-24 20:42 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:11 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:35 ` Linas Vepstas
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