linuxppc-dev.lists.ozlabs.org archive mirror
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Jan-Bernd Themann <ossthema@de.ibm.com>
To: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Cc: tklein@de.ibm.com, themann@de.ibm.com, stefan.roscher@de.ibm.com,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, jchapman@katalix.com, raisch@de.ibm.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org,
	akepner@sgi.com, meder@de.ibm.com,
	shemminger@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:19:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708281319.03903.ossthema@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070827.133721.59473971.davem@davemloft.net>

On Monday 27 August 2007 22:37, David Miller wrote:
> From: Jan-Bernd Themann <ossthema@de.ibm.com>
> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 11:47:01 +0200
> 
> > So the question is simply: Do we want drivers that need (benefit
> > from) a timer based polling support to implement their own timers
> > each, or should there be a generic support?
> 
> I'm trying to figure out how an hrtimer implementation would
> even work.
> 
> Would you start the timer from the chip interrupt handler?  If so,
> that's taking two steps backwards as you've already taken all of the
> overhead of running the interrupt handler.

I'm also still trying to understand how hrtimer work exactly. 
The implementation of hrtimers for P6 has not been finished yet, so
I can't do experiments with hrtimers and eHEA now.

I will try the following scheme (once we get hrtimers):
Each device (queue) has a hrtimer.
Schedule the timer in the poll function instead of reactivating IRQs
when a high load situation has been detected and all packets have
been emptied from the receive queue.
The timer function could then just call netif_rx_schedule to register
the rx_queue for NAPI again. 

The advantages of this scheme (if it works as I understood it) would be:
- we don't have to modify NAPI
- benefit from fairness amoung rx_queues / network devices 
- The poll function can decide how long to stick to the timer based
  polling mode, and when to switch back to it's HW IRQs.
- driver can determine the time to wait based on the receive queue length and
  speed

Regards,
Jan-Bernd

  reply	other threads:[~2007-08-28 11:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-24 13:59 RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:37 ` akepner
2007-08-24 15:47   ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:52     ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-24 16:50       ` David Stevens
2007-08-24 21:44         ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:51           ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 16:51       ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 17:07         ` Rick Jones
2007-08-24 17:45         ` Shirley Ma
2007-08-24 17:16       ` James Chapman
2007-08-24 18:11         ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:47         ` David Miller
2007-08-24 22:06           ` akepner
2007-08-26 19:36           ` James Chapman
2007-08-27  1:58             ` David Miller
2007-08-27  9:47               ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 20:37                 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 11:19                   ` Jan-Bernd Themann [this message]
2007-08-28 20:21                     ` David Miller
2007-08-29  7:10                       ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29  8:15                         ` James Chapman
2007-08-29  8:43                           ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29  8:29                         ` David Miller
2007-08-29  8:31                           ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 15:51               ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 16:02                 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 17:05                   ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:02                 ` David Miller
2007-08-27 21:41                   ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:56                     ` David Miller
2007-08-28  9:22                       ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:48                         ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 12:16                           ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-28 14:55                           ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:21                   ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:25                     ` David Miller
2007-08-28 20:27                     ` David Miller
2007-08-24 16:45 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:43   ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:32 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:37 ` David Miller
     [not found] <8VHRR-45R-17@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <8VKwj-8ke-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-24 19:04   ` Bodo Eggert
2007-08-24 20:42     ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:11       ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:35         ` Linas Vepstas

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=200708281319.03903.ossthema@de.ibm.com \
    --to=ossthema@de.ibm.com \
    --cc=akepner@sgi.com \
    --cc=davem@davemloft.net \
    --cc=jchapman@katalix.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org \
    --cc=meder@de.ibm.com \
    --cc=netdev@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=raisch@de.ibm.com \
    --cc=shemminger@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=stefan.roscher@de.ibm.com \
    --cc=themann@de.ibm.com \
    --cc=tklein@de.ibm.com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox;
as well as URLs for NNTP newsgroup(s).