From: Jan-Bernd Themann <ossthema@de.ibm.com>
To: James Chapman <jchapman@katalix.com>
Cc: tklein@de.ibm.com, themann@de.ibm.com, stefan.roscher@de.ibm.com,
netdev@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
raisch@de.ibm.com, linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, akepner@sgi.com,
meder@de.ibm.com, shemminger@linux-foundation.org,
David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface
Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:48:20 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200708281348.21302.ossthema@de.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <46D3E971.4010909@katalix.com>
On Tuesday 28 August 2007 11:22, James Chapman wrote:
> > So in this scheme what runs ->poll() to process incoming packets?
> > The hrtimer?
>
> No, the regular NAPI networking core calls ->poll() as usual; no timers
> are involved. This scheme simply delays the napi_complete() from the
> driver so the device stays in the poll list longer. It means that its
> ->poll() will be called when there is no work to do for 1-2 jiffies,
> hence the optimization at the top of ->poll() to efficiently handle that
> case. The device's ->poll() is called by the NAPI core until it has
> continuously done no work for 1-2 jiffies, at which point it finally
> does the netif_rx_complete() and re-enables its interrupts.
>
I'm not sure if I understand your approach correctly.
This approach may reduce the number of interrupts, but it does so
by blocking the CPU for up to 1 jiffy (that can be quite some time
on some platforms). So no other application / tasklet / softIRQ type
can do anything in between. The CPU utilization does not drop at all,
and I thought that is one reason why we try to reduce the number of interrupts.
> If people feel that holding the device in the poll list for 1-2 jiffies
> is too long (because there are too many wasted polls), a counter could
> be used to to delay the netif_rx_complete() by N polls instead. N would
> be a value depending on CPU speed. I use the jiffy sampling method
> because it results in some natural randomization of the actual delay
> depending on when the jiffy value was sampled in relation to the jiffy tick.
>
Waiting for N polls seems to make no sense if there are no further network adapters
in that machine. It would take no time to call poll N times in a row when no
new packets arrive. There is no real delay as the net_rx_action function will
do nothing else between the poll calls.
Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Regards,
Jan-Bernd
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-08-28 11:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-08-24 13:59 RFC: issues concerning the next NAPI interface Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:37 ` akepner
2007-08-24 15:47 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 15:52 ` Stephen Hemminger
2007-08-24 16:50 ` David Stevens
2007-08-24 21:44 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:51 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 16:51 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 17:07 ` Rick Jones
2007-08-24 17:45 ` Shirley Ma
2007-08-24 17:16 ` James Chapman
2007-08-24 18:11 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:47 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 22:06 ` akepner
2007-08-26 19:36 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 1:58 ` David Miller
2007-08-27 9:47 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 20:37 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 11:19 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:21 ` David Miller
2007-08-29 7:10 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29 8:15 ` James Chapman
2007-08-29 8:43 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-29 8:29 ` David Miller
2007-08-29 8:31 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 15:51 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 16:02 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-27 17:05 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:02 ` David Miller
2007-08-27 21:41 ` James Chapman
2007-08-27 21:56 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 9:22 ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:48 ` Jan-Bernd Themann [this message]
2007-08-28 12:16 ` Evgeniy Polyakov
2007-08-28 14:55 ` James Chapman
2007-08-28 11:21 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-28 20:25 ` David Miller
2007-08-28 20:27 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 16:45 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:43 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:32 ` David Miller
2007-08-24 21:37 ` David Miller
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[not found] ` <8VKwj-8ke-27@gated-at.bofh.it>
2007-08-24 19:04 ` Bodo Eggert
2007-08-24 20:42 ` Linas Vepstas
2007-08-24 21:11 ` Jan-Bernd Themann
2007-08-24 21:35 ` Linas Vepstas
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