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From: Sven Luther <sven@genesi-usa.com>
To: Matt Sealey <matt@genesi-usa.com>
Cc: Sven Luther <sven@genesi-usa.com>, Olaf Hering <olaf@aepfle.de>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: add phy-handle property for fec_mpc52xx
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2008 18:22:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080109172208.GD6789@powerlinux.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <478501C0.9040905@genesi-usa.com>

On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 05:17:52PM +0000, Matt Sealey wrote:
> 
> Sven Luther wrote:
> >On Wed, Jan 09, 2008 at 04:36:19PM +0000, Matt Sealey wrote:
> >>The link that Olaf presented, www.powerdeveloper.org/asset/by-id/46 *is*
> >>the upstream support for now. What his patch does is say, the upstream
> >>support exists, but we don't like it, so we will supplement the patch..
> >
> >Matt, your work on efika.forth is laudable, and it is nice that you took
> >the time to support it.
> >
> >*BUT* it is not acceptable for a distribution, or for someone who will
> >have to do user support, to have to launch a second binary before
> >launching the kernel. Especially when netbooting for example.
> 
> Then I think you are all missing the fact that I said there *IS A REALLY
> CUTE WAY OF INSTALLING IT ONCE* by uploading it into nvramrc, it will not
> be a runnable script, but executed on boot, because it'll be flashed into
> nvramrc.
> 
> However I don't have the time to go into making this app, creating the
> tools to munge efika.forth into a correct more uploadable format, and
> creating the install tool. I barely have enough time to track this list
> and make sure any drivers requiring firmware tree changes are taken care
> of (I definitely lost the plot with the USB one, I haven't even checked
> it even though I was asked to 2 weeks ago..)
> 
> Unfortunately one guy who already has a significant amount of work to do
> all day, who is not the responsible person for firmware issues, and is
> not being assisted by anyone in the community either generated and
> maintained by Genesi or existing around Linux, poses some serious problems
> with timeliness of updates.
> 
> If anyone wants to stop patching Linux and instead make efika.forth easier
> to use, feel free, REALLY. Sven, are you volunteering for this REALLY
> tiny task? It will probably take all of a day for a couple of guys to
> work up the tools to do it based on very simple instructions and data
> provided.. the work is probably worth the price of a pizza, so no
> contracts are going to be worked out for it.

Just fix it conditionally in linux, like it is being proposed, and
everyone is happy :)

Friendly,

Sven Luther

  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-09 17:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-01-09 14:06 add phy-handle property for fec_mpc52xx Olaf Hering
2008-01-09 14:44 ` Grant Likely
2008-01-09 14:49   ` Sven Luther
2008-01-09 14:50     ` Grant Likely
2008-01-09 14:58       ` Sven Luther
2008-01-09 15:34         ` Matt Sealey
2008-01-09 15:21     ` Matt Sealey
2008-01-09 15:20       ` Grant Likely
2008-01-09 15:21       ` Sven Luther
2008-01-09 15:10 ` Grant Likely
2008-01-09 15:26 ` Matt Sealey
2008-01-09 15:35   ` Sven Luther
2008-01-09 16:30     ` Matt Sealey
2008-01-09 16:29       ` Sven Luther
2008-01-09 16:36         ` Matt Sealey
2008-01-09 17:05           ` Sven Luther
2008-01-09 17:17             ` Matt Sealey
2008-01-09 17:22               ` Sven Luther [this message]
2008-01-09 15:46   ` Grant Likely
2008-01-09 16:35     ` Matt Sealey
2008-01-09 16:44       ` Grant Likely
2008-01-09 15:49   ` David Woodhouse
2008-01-09 16:48     ` Matt Sealey
2008-01-10  2:21     ` Paul Mackerras
2008-01-10  5:04       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-01-10  9:14       ` David Woodhouse
2008-01-09 16:02   ` Olof Johansson
2008-01-09 16:26 ` Grant Likely
2008-01-10  2:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2008-01-10 11:47   ` Olaf Hering

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