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From: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com>
Cc: Scott Wood <scottwood@freescale.com>, Stefan Roese <sr@denx.de>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: "cell-index" vs. "index" vs. no index in I2C device nodes
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 13:40:57 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20080605134057.346e1149@zod.rchland.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <484831E6.8090509@freescale.com>

On Thu, 05 Jun 2008 13:35:18 -0500
Timur Tabi <timur@freescale.com> wrote:

> Josh Boyer wrote:
> 
> > I don't understand this statement.  Are your I2C macros hot-pluggable?
> > Can you dynamically add/remove an I2C engine on your hardware somehow?
> > Are you mucking about with the DTB and randomly moving around the I2C
> > node blobs so they probe order differs from boot to boot?
> > 
> > If not, then the probe order will be static for every boot. 
> 
> You're making two assumptions:
> 
> 1) That every I2C adapter will be present in the device tree.  Some device trees
> don't list I2C adapters if there are no devices on them.

Which isn't a problem.

> 2) That the nodes in the device tree are put in order

Which isn't a problem.

> Besides, let's say I have a pointer to a specific I2C device node in the tree.
> How do I find out the bus number it's on?  With my way, it's easy:
> 
> iprop = of_get_property(of_get_parent(codec_np), "cell-index", NULL);
> bus = *iprop;
> 
> With your way, I'll need to scan the entire device tree, poking inside each I2C
> adapter node looking for my I2C device node while keeping track of the I2C adapters.
> 
> > You can
> > assign the index 
> 
> Assign it to where?  When the fabric driver goes to find codec nodes, the only
> information it has is the device tree.  So when I assign this index to some
> random variable that you're talking about, my fabric driver will know nothing
> about that.

Your driver is sufficiently different then.  The i2c-ibm_iic driver
keeps an index property in it's private device structure.

> > using a static int that is incremented after each node
> > is discovered and the ordering of the devices will never change.  Can
> > you explain why something like that isn't possible or sufficient?
> 
> Yes, I just did.

Sort of.

> > (And I'm talking about I2C, not DMA.  I don't care about DMA because
> > this conversation will go off into the weeds if we start talking about
> > cell-index and every possible device out there.)
> 
> But we are talking about every device.  It's the same problem for every device.
>  Making this problem I2C-specific is not going to solve anything.

I've been driven to the point of not caring anymore.

If you need a simple index property, then maybe Sean was right to just
call the damn thing "index".  Overloading "cell-index", which already
has a specific semantic associated with it, seems odd to me.

josh

  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-05 18:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-06-04 15:06 "cell-index" vs. "index" vs. no index in I2C device nodes Stefan Roese
2008-06-04 15:24 ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-04 15:43   ` Scott Wood
2008-06-05  2:19     ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-05  2:41       ` David Gibson
2008-06-06  2:40         ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-06  3:37           ` David Gibson
2008-06-07  0:30             ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-06  4:07         ` Grant Likely
2008-06-06  4:29           ` Sean MacLennan
2008-06-05  2:54       ` Sean MacLennan
2008-06-05  3:05         ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-05  3:16           ` Sean MacLennan
2008-06-05  6:22             ` Stefan Roese
2008-06-05  7:48               ` Jean Delvare
2008-06-05  8:45                 ` Stefan Roese
2008-06-05 10:57                   ` David Gibson
2008-06-05 11:52                   ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-05 15:18                     ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 22:47                     ` David Gibson
2008-06-06  4:17                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-06-06  4:16                 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-06-06  6:21                   ` Jean Delvare
2008-06-06  7:47                     ` Grant Likely
2008-06-06  8:45                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-06-05 15:17               ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 15:44                 ` Jochen Friedrich
2008-06-05 15:50                   ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 16:10                     ` Grant Likely
2008-06-05 16:18                       ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 16:22                         ` Jochen Friedrich
2008-06-05 16:30                           ` Grant Likely
2008-06-05 16:40                             ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 22:46                               ` David Gibson
2008-06-05 16:35                         ` Grant Likely
2008-06-05 23:59                     ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-07  0:24                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-05 21:37               ` Sean MacLennan
2008-06-05 23:48                 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-05 15:13       ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 15:39         ` Grant Likely
2008-06-05 15:43           ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 15:52             ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-05 16:09               ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 16:27                 ` Scott Wood
2008-06-05 17:52                   ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 18:04                     ` Scott Wood
2008-06-05 16:00             ` Grant Likely
2008-06-05 16:13               ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 16:21                 ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-05 16:25                   ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 16:37                     ` Grant Likely
2008-06-05 18:27                     ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-05 18:35                       ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 18:40                         ` Josh Boyer [this message]
2008-06-05 18:46                       ` Grant Likely
2008-06-05 18:56                         ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-05 19:14                           ` Grant Likely
2008-06-05 19:15                             ` Josh Boyer
2008-06-05 19:16                             ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-05 21:31                               ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-05 22:56                               ` David Gibson
2008-06-06 13:09                                 ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-06 13:42                                   ` Stefan Roese
2008-06-05 22:45                             ` Sean MacLennan
2008-06-06  4:20             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-06-25 21:46               ` Timur Tabi
2008-06-27 16:48                 ` Jochen Friedrich
2008-06-05 15:46           ` Segher Boessenkool
2008-06-05 15:52           ` Jochen Friedrich
2008-06-05 15:53             ` Grant Likely
2008-06-06  4:19         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-06-06  4:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2008-06-06  4:13     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt

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