* Re: [PATCH] hvc_console: prevent wrapping in hvc_console_print() [not found] <49BF956B.9030109@gmail.com> @ 2009-03-30 20:35 ` Andrew Morton 2009-03-30 20:55 ` Josh Boyer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Andrew Morton @ 2009-03-30 20:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Roel Kluin; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, linux-kernel On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 13:19:55 +0100 Roel Kluin <roel.kluin@gmail.com> wrote: > This was found by code analysis, is it needed? > ------------------------------>8-------------8<--------------------------------- > If we subtract too much on unsigned i it wraps. > > Signed-off-by: Roel Kluin <roel.kluin@gmail.com> > --- > diff --git a/drivers/char/hvc_console.c b/drivers/char/hvc_console.c > index 94e7e3c..d06313c 100644 > --- a/drivers/char/hvc_console.c > +++ b/drivers/char/hvc_console.c > @@ -161,10 +161,10 @@ static void hvc_console_print(struct console *co, const char *b, > } > } else { > r = cons_ops[index]->put_chars(vtermnos[index], c, i); > - if (r <= 0) { > + if (r <= 0 || r > i) { > /* throw away chars on error */ > i = 0; > - } else if (r > 0) { > + } else { > i -= r; > if (i > 0) > memmove(c, c+r, i); I expect that ->put_chars() will either return a -ve errno or will return the number of chars which were written, which will be less than or equal to `i'. Or maybe I miss your point. Guys, could we have a MAINTAINERS entry for this driver please? ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] hvc_console: prevent wrapping in hvc_console_print() 2009-03-30 20:35 ` [PATCH] hvc_console: prevent wrapping in hvc_console_print() Andrew Morton @ 2009-03-30 20:55 ` Josh Boyer 2009-03-30 21:18 ` Andrew Morton 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Josh Boyer @ 2009-03-30 20:55 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, Roel Kluin, linux-kernel On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 01:35:31PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: >Guys, could we have a MAINTAINERS entry for this driver please? To my knowledge, there isn't one. Would be Ben now by default I guess. The previous developers have disclaimed ownership for a while from what I remember. josh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] hvc_console: prevent wrapping in hvc_console_print() 2009-03-30 20:55 ` Josh Boyer @ 2009-03-30 21:18 ` Andrew Morton 2009-03-31 13:29 ` [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS Josh Boyer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Andrew Morton @ 2009-03-30 21:18 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Josh Boyer; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, roel.kluin, linux-kernel On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 16:55:53 -0400 Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 01:35:31PM -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > >Guys, could we have a MAINTAINERS entry for this driver please? > > To my knowledge, there isn't one. Would be Ben now by default I > guess. The previous developers have disclaimed ownership for a > while from what I remember. > A MAINAINERS record doesn't have to identify an individual. It can at least point people at the appropriate mailing list(s). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-03-30 21:18 ` Andrew Morton @ 2009-03-31 13:29 ` Josh Boyer 2009-03-31 21:10 ` Joe Perches 2009-03-31 23:44 ` Michael Ellerman 0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Josh Boyer @ 2009-03-31 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, roel.kluin, linux-kernel Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console support used on IBM POWER servers. Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com> --- diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS index c5f4e9d..387ad45 100644 --- a/MAINTAINERS +++ b/MAINTAINERS @@ -2176,6 +2176,11 @@ W: http://www.ia64-linux.org/ T: git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/aegl/linux-2.6.git S: Maintained +IBM HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE +P: Several +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org +S: Maintained + IBM MCA SCSI SUBSYSTEM DRIVER P: Michael Lang M: langa2@kph.uni-mainz.de ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-03-31 13:29 ` [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS Josh Boyer @ 2009-03-31 21:10 ` Joe Perches 2009-03-31 21:22 ` Andrew Morton 2009-03-31 23:44 ` Michael Ellerman 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Joe Perches @ 2009-03-31 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Josh Boyer; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, Andrew Morton, roel.kluin, linux-kernel On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 09:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console support > used on IBM POWER servers. > > Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com> > --- > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > index c5f4e9d..387ad45 100644 > --- a/MAINTAINERS > +++ b/MAINTAINERS > @@ -2176,6 +2176,11 @@ W: http://www.ia64-linux.org/ > T: git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/aegl/linux-2.6.git > S: Maintained > > +IBM HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE > +P: Several > +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org > +S: Maintained > + > IBM MCA SCSI SUBSYSTEM DRIVER > P: Michael Lang > M: langa2@kph.uni-mainz.de I think this sort of entry should not be acceptable. Maintainers should have individual names and contact addresses. An exploder entry should be OK though. For instance, the DVB subsystem: DVB SUBSYSTEM AND DRIVERS P: LinuxTV.org Project M: linux-media@vger.kernel.org A list entry could be something like: P: Linux PCMCIA Team L: linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-03-31 21:10 ` Joe Perches @ 2009-03-31 21:22 ` Andrew Morton 2009-03-31 21:40 ` Joe Perches 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Andrew Morton @ 2009-03-31 21:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joe Perches; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, linux-kernel, roel.kluin On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:10:23 -0700 Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote: > On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 09:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console support > > used on IBM POWER servers. > > > > Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com> > > --- > > > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > > index c5f4e9d..387ad45 100644 > > --- a/MAINTAINERS > > +++ b/MAINTAINERS > > @@ -2176,6 +2176,11 @@ W: http://www.ia64-linux.org/ > > T: git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/aegl/linux-2.6.git > > S: Maintained > > > > +IBM HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE > > +P: Several > > +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org > > +S: Maintained > > + > > IBM MCA SCSI SUBSYSTEM DRIVER > > P: Michael Lang > > M: langa2@kph.uni-mainz.de > > I think this sort of entry should not be acceptable. > Maintainers should have individual names and contact addresses. There isn't a maintainer. But people send patches to the wrong list, so the ppc guys (who use this driver) don't get to see them. That's a practical, real-world problem. We should have a fix for it. > An exploder entry should be OK though. > For instance, the DVB subsystem: > > DVB SUBSYSTEM AND DRIVERS > P: LinuxTV.org Project > M: linux-media@vger.kernel.org > > A list entry could be something like: > > P: Linux PCMCIA Team > L: linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org > I'm unclear on what the difference is here.. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-03-31 21:22 ` Andrew Morton @ 2009-03-31 21:40 ` Joe Perches 2009-03-31 23:52 ` Josh Boyer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Joe Perches @ 2009-03-31 21:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Andrew Morton; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, linux-kernel, roel.kluin On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 14:22 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: > On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:10:23 -0700 > Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 09:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > > > Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console support > > > used on IBM POWER servers. > > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > > > index c5f4e9d..387ad45 100644 > > > --- a/MAINTAINERS > > > +++ b/MAINTAINERS > > > @@ -2176,6 +2176,11 @@ W: http://www.ia64-linux.org/ > > > T: git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/aegl/linux-2.6.git > > > S: Maintained > > > > > > +IBM HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE > > > +P: Several > > > +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org > > > +S: Maintained > > > + > > > IBM MCA SCSI SUBSYSTEM DRIVER > > > P: Michael Lang > > > M: langa2@kph.uni-mainz.de > > > > I think this sort of entry should not be acceptable. > > Maintainers should have individual names and contact addresses. > > There isn't a maintainer. > > But people send patches to the wrong list, so the ppc guys (who use > this driver) don't get to see them. > > That's a practical, real-world problem. We should have a fix for it. > > > An exploder entry should be OK though. > > For instance, the DVB subsystem: > > > > DVB SUBSYSTEM AND DRIVERS > > P: LinuxTV.org Project > > M: linux-media@vger.kernel.org > > > > A list entry could be something like: > > > > P: Linux PCMCIA Team > > L: linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org > > > > I'm unclear on what the difference is here.. I have no problem with the "L: list" entry. I think that's good. Along with some file matching pattern as well of course... I think the "P: Several" entry is not good. "Several" doesn't give any idea as to who actually does the work. If the "P:" entry is there at all, it should be the list name. Maybe "P: Linux PPC Development Team" or something similar. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-03-31 21:40 ` Joe Perches @ 2009-03-31 23:52 ` Josh Boyer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Josh Boyer @ 2009-03-31 23:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Joe Perches; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, Andrew Morton, roel.kluin, linux-kernel On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 02:40:58PM -0700, Joe Perches wrote: >On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 14:22 -0700, Andrew Morton wrote: >> On Tue, 31 Mar 2009 14:10:23 -0700 >> Joe Perches <joe@perches.com> wrote: >> > On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 09:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> > > Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console support >> > > used on IBM POWER servers. >> > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS >> > > index c5f4e9d..387ad45 100644 >> > > --- a/MAINTAINERS >> > > +++ b/MAINTAINERS >> > > @@ -2176,6 +2176,11 @@ W: http://www.ia64-linux.org/ >> > > T: git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/aegl/linux-2.6.git >> > > S: Maintained >> > > >> > > +IBM HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE >> > > +P: Several >> > > +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org >> > > +S: Maintained >> > > + >> > > IBM MCA SCSI SUBSYSTEM DRIVER >> > > P: Michael Lang >> > > M: langa2@kph.uni-mainz.de >> > >> > I think this sort of entry should not be acceptable. >> > Maintainers should have individual names and contact addresses. >> >> There isn't a maintainer. >> >> But people send patches to the wrong list, so the ppc guys (who use >> this driver) don't get to see them. >> >> That's a practical, real-world problem. We should have a fix for it. >> >> > An exploder entry should be OK though. >> > For instance, the DVB subsystem: >> > >> > DVB SUBSYSTEM AND DRIVERS >> > P: LinuxTV.org Project >> > M: linux-media@vger.kernel.org >> > >> > A list entry could be something like: >> > >> > P: Linux PCMCIA Team >> > L: linux-pcmcia@lists.infradead.org >> > >> >> I'm unclear on what the difference is here.. > >I have no problem with the "L: list" entry. >I think that's good. Along with some file >matching pattern as well of course... > >I think the "P: Several" entry is not good. > >"Several" doesn't give any idea as to who >actually does the work. I copied that from something else in MAINTAINERS. I believe it was the KERNEL JANITORS entry. I guess I should have known better than to copy from that... >If the "P:" entry is there at all, it should >be the list name. > >Maybe "P: Linux PPC Development Team" or >something similar. Except that isn't right for the reasons Michael specified. josh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-03-31 13:29 ` [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS Josh Boyer 2009-03-31 21:10 ` Joe Perches @ 2009-03-31 23:44 ` Michael Ellerman 2009-03-31 23:50 ` Josh Boyer 1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Michael Ellerman @ 2009-03-31 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Josh Boyer; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, Andrew Morton, roel.kluin, linux-kernel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1008 bytes --] On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 09:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console support > used on IBM POWER servers. > > Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com> > --- > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > index c5f4e9d..387ad45 100644 > --- a/MAINTAINERS > +++ b/MAINTAINERS > @@ -2176,6 +2176,11 @@ W: http://www.ia64-linux.org/ > T: git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/aegl/linux-2.6.git > S: Maintained > > +IBM HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE > +P: Several > +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org > +S: Maintained I don't think it's the "IBM" Hypervisor virtual console driver anymore. There are backends for Xen, Beat (Toshiba) and virtio. cheers -- Michael Ellerman OzLabs, IBM Australia Development Lab wwweb: http://michael.ellerman.id.au phone: +61 2 6212 1183 (tie line 70 21183) We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - S.M.A.R.T Person [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-03-31 23:44 ` Michael Ellerman @ 2009-03-31 23:50 ` Josh Boyer 2009-04-01 0:04 ` Michael Ellerman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Josh Boyer @ 2009-03-31 23:50 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Ellerman; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, Andrew Morton, roel.kluin, linux-kernel On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 10:44:00AM +1100, Michael Ellerman wrote: >On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 09:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: >> Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console support >> used on IBM POWER servers. >> >> Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com> >> --- >> >> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS >> index c5f4e9d..387ad45 100644 >> --- a/MAINTAINERS >> +++ b/MAINTAINERS >> @@ -2176,6 +2176,11 @@ W: http://www.ia64-linux.org/ >> T: git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/aegl/linux-2.6.git >> S: Maintained >> >> +IBM HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE >> +P: Several >> +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org >> +S: Maintained > >I don't think it's the "IBM" Hypervisor virtual console driver anymore. >There are backends for Xen, Beat (Toshiba) and virtio. Was just going by the copyright in the files, and Documentation/powerpc/hvc* Also, if there are other backends, then is the list specified really correct? Perhaps it should just be linux-kernel. Guess that's the problem with trying to add a maintainers entry for something that doesn't really have a specific maintainer. josh ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-03-31 23:50 ` Josh Boyer @ 2009-04-01 0:04 ` Michael Ellerman 2009-04-01 0:20 ` Michael Ellerman 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Michael Ellerman @ 2009-04-01 0:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Josh Boyer; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, Andrew Morton, roel.kluin, linux-kernel [-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1595 bytes --] On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 19:50 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 10:44:00AM +1100, Michael Ellerman wrote: > >On Tue, 2009-03-31 at 09:29 -0400, Josh Boyer wrote: > >> Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console support > >> used on IBM POWER servers. > >> > >> Signed-off-by: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com> > >> --- > >> > >> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > >> index c5f4e9d..387ad45 100644 > >> --- a/MAINTAINERS > >> +++ b/MAINTAINERS > >> @@ -2176,6 +2176,11 @@ W: http://www.ia64-linux.org/ > >> T: git kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/aegl/linux-2.6.git > >> S: Maintained > >> > >> +IBM HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE > >> +P: Several > >> +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org > >> +S: Maintained > > > >I don't think it's the "IBM" Hypervisor virtual console driver anymore. > >There are backends for Xen, Beat (Toshiba) and virtio. > > Was just going by the copyright in the files, and Documentation/powerpc/hvc* > > Also, if there are other backends, then is the list specified really > correct? Perhaps it should just be linux-kernel. I would say /also/ linux-kernel. I think there's still more folks on linux-ppc who have looked at the driver than elsewhere, but cross-posting to lkml is probably good as well. cheers -- Michael Ellerman OzLabs, IBM Australia Development Lab wwweb: http://michael.ellerman.id.au phone: +61 2 6212 1183 (tie line 70 21183) We do not inherit the earth from our ancestors, we borrow it from our children. - S.M.A.R.T Person [-- Attachment #2: This is a digitally signed message part --] [-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 197 bytes --] ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-04-01 0:04 ` Michael Ellerman @ 2009-04-01 0:20 ` Michael Ellerman 2009-04-01 0:33 ` Josh Boyer 0 siblings, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread From: Michael Ellerman @ 2009-04-01 0:20 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Josh Boyer; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, Andrew Morton, roel.kluin, linux-kernel Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console driver. Signed-off-by: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au> --- MAINTAINERS | 6 ++++++ 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) How about this? diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS index 1c2ca1d..854437a 100644 --- a/MAINTAINERS +++ b/MAINTAINERS @@ -1918,6 +1918,12 @@ L: lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org W: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/fseidel/hdaps/ S: Maintained +HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE DRIVER +L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org +L: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org +S: Odd Fixes +F: drivers/char/hvc_* + GSPCA FINEPIX SUBDRIVER P: Frank Zago M: frank@zago.net -- 1.6.1.2 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
* Re: Add hvc_console to MAINTAINERS 2009-04-01 0:20 ` Michael Ellerman @ 2009-04-01 0:33 ` Josh Boyer 0 siblings, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread From: Josh Boyer @ 2009-04-01 0:33 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Michael Ellerman; +Cc: linuxppc-dev, Andrew Morton, roel.kluin, linux-kernel On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 11:20:50AM +1100, Michael Ellerman wrote: >Add a MAINTAINERS entry for the hypervisor virtual console driver. > >Signed-off-by: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au> Acked-by: Josh Boyer <jwboyer@linux.vnet.ibm.com> >--- > MAINTAINERS | 6 ++++++ > 1 files changed, 6 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) > >How about this? > >diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS >index 1c2ca1d..854437a 100644 >--- a/MAINTAINERS >+++ b/MAINTAINERS >@@ -1918,6 +1918,12 @@ L: lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org > W: http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/fseidel/hdaps/ > S: Maintained > >+HYPERVISOR VIRTUAL CONSOLE DRIVER >+L: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org >+L: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org >+S: Odd Fixes >+F: drivers/char/hvc_* >+ > GSPCA FINEPIX SUBDRIVER > P: Frank Zago > M: frank@zago.net >-- >1.6.1.2 > > > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 13+ messages in thread
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