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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: John Kacur <jkacur@redhat.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arndbergmann@googlemail.com>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] macintosh: Explicitly set llseek to no_llseek in ans-lcd
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:16:21 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091021221619.GF4880@nowhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.0910212350210.3526@localhost.localdomain>

On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 11:53:21PM +0200, John Kacur wrote:
> > No problem with that. Setting no_llseek or generic_file_llseek_unlocked,
> > depending on the context is the right thing to do.
> > 
> > What I'm wondering about concerns the future code that will have
> > no llsek() implemented in their fops.
> > 
> > We can't continue to use default_llseek() for future code unless we
> > want to continue these post reviews and fixes forever.
> > 
> 
> I'm thinking that the simplier approach, would be to make the 
> default_llseek the unlocked one. Then you only have to audit the drivers 
> that have the BKL - ie the ones we are auditing anyway, and explicitly set 
> them to the bkl locked llseek.
> 
> There might be a hidden interaction though between the non-unlocked 
> variety of ioctls and default llseek though.


I fear that won't work because the bkl in default_llseek() does not
only synchronizes with others uses of the bkl in a driver, it also
synchronizes lseek() itself.

As an example offset change is not atomic. This is a long long, so
updating its value is not atomic in 32 bits archs.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-21 22:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20091010153314.827301943@linutronix.de>
2009-10-10 15:37 ` [patch 22/28] macintosh: Remove BKL from ans-lcd Thomas Gleixner
2009-10-10 21:14   ` John Kacur
2009-10-10 23:13     ` Alan Cox
2009-10-10 23:27       ` John Kacur
2009-10-11  9:02   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-10-21 21:07   ` [PATCH] macintosh: Explicitly set llseek to no_llseek in ans-lcd John Kacur
2009-10-21 21:21     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-21 21:33       ` John Kacur
2009-10-21 21:45         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2009-10-21 21:53           ` John Kacur
2009-10-21 22:16             ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2009-11-02 15:51               ` Arnd Bergmann
2009-11-16 10:54                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2009-11-16 12:09                   ` Arnd Bergmann

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