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From: "K.Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	paulus@samba.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 00:33:20 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091217190320.GA20331@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091214192626.3F9171DE@magilla.sf.frob.com>

On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:26:26AM -0800, Roland McGrath wrote:
<snipped>
> I understand the reason for using stepping.  (I have advised in the past
> that I thought this magical implicit step logic was too hairy to roll in
> under the covers and that a low-level facility expressing the different
> hardware semantics to a kernel API would be OK.  I do agree with the
> motivation of cross-arch uniformity of the semantics.  I don't object to
> making it magically right--I just expressed general skepticism/fear about
> getting that right so that I didn't want to try writing that magic.  Now
> I'm just responding about the particular details I've noticed about that
> can of worms.  It's certainly great if you can resolve all that.  But I'll
> note that I am still by no means confident that the details I have raised
> cover all the worms in that can.)
> 
> What remains less than clear is how preemption relates.  For any per-thread
> hw_breakpoint, there is no high-level reason to care one way or the other.
> The thread, its HW breakpoints, its register state including state of
> stepping, are all part of per-thread state and no reason to do any less (or
> more) preemption than normally happens.
> 

I get that reasoning now...I'd been unduly worried about pre-emption
and hence the introduction of pre-emption disabled state.

But of course, in the existing design, the per-cpu variables would be
affected because if pre-emption was to occur. I'll see how that can be
factored in, while retaining the abstraction provided by the interfaces.

> > Disabling pre-emption is necessary to ensure that hw-breakpoints are
> > enabled immediately after the causative instruction has finished
> > execution (the control flow may go astray if pre-emption occurs between
> > i1 and i2).
> 
> I don't understand what "go astray" means here.  The only thing I can think
> of is the effect on any per-cpu variables you are using in hw_breakpoint
> implementation.
> 

As stated above, I was worried about a pre-emption happening between a
return from breakpoint exception handler and the execution of the
causative instruction....but as I learn, it seems fine now. It is just that
the kernel code needs to be tweaked keeping this in mind.

Thanks,
K.Prasad

  reply	other threads:[~2009-12-17 19:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-11 16:04 [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2009-12-14  0:56 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 18:03   ` K.Prasad
2009-12-14 19:26     ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-17 19:03       ` K.Prasad [this message]
2010-01-19  9:40         ` K.Prasad
2010-01-19 10:03           ` Roland McGrath
2010-01-22  7:14             ` K.Prasad
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-19  9:12 [Patch 0/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Hardware Breakpoint interfaces - ver XI K.Prasad
2010-01-19  9:14 ` [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2010-01-21  8:46 [Patch 0/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Hardware Breakpoint interfaces - ver XII K.Prasad
2010-01-21  8:49 ` [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2010-02-15  5:56 [Patch 0/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Hardware Breakpoint interfaces - ver XIII K.Prasad
2010-02-15  5:59 ` [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2010-02-21  1:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-02-22 13:17     ` K.Prasad
2010-02-23 10:57       ` K.Prasad
2010-02-26 17:52         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-02-26  1:58       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-08 23:57         ` David Gibson
2010-03-09  2:14         ` K.Prasad
2010-03-08 18:12 [Patch 0/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Hardware Breakpoint interfaces - ver XIV K.Prasad
2010-03-08 18:14 ` [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2010-03-12  6:19   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15  6:29     ` K.Prasad
2010-04-07  8:03       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-14  3:53         ` K.Prasad
2010-03-23  5:33   ` Paul Mackerras
2010-03-23  7:28     ` K.Prasad

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