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From: "K.Prasad" <prasad@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Roland McGrath <roland@redhat.com>
Cc: Michael Neuling <mikey@neuling.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@au1.ibm.com>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	David Gibson <dwg@au1.ibm.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>,
	paulus@samba.org
Subject: Re: [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 15:10:35 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100119094035.GD9971@in.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091217190320.GA20331@in.ibm.com>

On Fri, Dec 18, 2009 at 12:33:20AM +0530, K.Prasad wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:26:26AM -0800, Roland McGrath wrote:
<snipped>
> > What remains less than clear is how preemption relates.  For any per-thread
> > hw_breakpoint, there is no high-level reason to care one way or the other.
> > The thread, its HW breakpoints, its register state including state of
> > stepping, are all part of per-thread state and no reason to do any less (or
> > more) preemption than normally happens.
> > 
> 
> I get that reasoning now...I'd been unduly worried about pre-emption
> and hence the introduction of pre-emption disabled state.
> 
> But of course, in the existing design, the per-cpu variables would be
> affected because if pre-emption was to occur. I'll see how that can be
> factored in, while retaining the abstraction provided by the interfaces.
> 
<snipped>
> 
> As stated above, I was worried about a pre-emption happening between a
> return from breakpoint exception handler and the execution of the
> causative instruction....but as I learn, it seems fine now. It is just that
> the kernel code needs to be tweaked keeping this in mind.
> 
> Thanks,
> K.Prasad
> 

Hi Roland,
	The cost of allowing pre-emption (such as storing the per-cpu
variables into per-thread structures for user-space breakpoints and
offsetting the effect of a new process between the hw-breakpoint handler
and single-step handler) appears to far out-weigh the present approach
(where pre-emption is disabled between two user-space instructions).

It is also not clear to me if disabling pre-emption for the user-space
(albeit for a very tiny time-window) is incorrect and if their side-effects
are known. If otherwise, I think we should choose to operate in pre-empt
safe mode and avoid all costs associated when done without it.

I'm eager to know what you think.

Thanks,
K.Prasad

  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-19  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-11 16:04 [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2009-12-14  0:56 ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-14 18:03   ` K.Prasad
2009-12-14 19:26     ` Roland McGrath
2009-12-17 19:03       ` K.Prasad
2010-01-19  9:40         ` K.Prasad [this message]
2010-01-19 10:03           ` Roland McGrath
2010-01-22  7:14             ` K.Prasad
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-01-19  9:12 [Patch 0/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Hardware Breakpoint interfaces - ver XI K.Prasad
2010-01-19  9:14 ` [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2010-01-21  8:46 [Patch 0/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Hardware Breakpoint interfaces - ver XII K.Prasad
2010-01-21  8:49 ` [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2010-02-15  5:56 [Patch 0/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Hardware Breakpoint interfaces - ver XIII K.Prasad
2010-02-15  5:59 ` [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2010-02-21  1:01   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-02-22 13:17     ` K.Prasad
2010-02-23 10:57       ` K.Prasad
2010-02-26 17:52         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-02-26  1:58       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2010-03-08 23:57         ` David Gibson
2010-03-09  2:14         ` K.Prasad
2010-03-08 18:12 [Patch 0/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Hardware Breakpoint interfaces - ver XIV K.Prasad
2010-03-08 18:14 ` [Patch 1/1] PPC64-HWBKPT: Implement hw-breakpoints for PPC64 K.Prasad
2010-03-12  6:19   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-03-15  6:29     ` K.Prasad
2010-04-07  8:03       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-04-14  3:53         ` K.Prasad
2010-03-23  5:33   ` Paul Mackerras
2010-03-23  7:28     ` K.Prasad

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