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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Nathan Fontenot <nfont@austin.ibm.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@ozlabs.org, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org,
	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@jp.fujitsu.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/8] v5 De-couple sysfs memory directories from memory sections
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2010 12:08:16 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100812120816.e97d8b9e.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C60407C.2080608@austin.ibm.com>

On Mon, 09 Aug 2010 12:53:00 -0500
Nathan Fontenot <nfont@austin.ibm.com> wrote:

> This set of patches de-couples the idea that there is a single
> directory in sysfs for each memory section.  The intent of the
> patches is to reduce the number of sysfs directories created to
> resolve a boot-time performance issue.  On very large systems
> boot time are getting very long (as seen on powerpc hardware)
> due to the enormous number of sysfs directories being created.
> On a system with 1 TB of memory we create ~63,000 directories.
> For even larger systems boot times are being measured in hours.

And those "hours" are mainly due to this problem, I assume.

> This set of patches allows for each directory created in sysfs
> to cover more than one memory section.  The default behavior for
> sysfs directory creation is the same, in that each directory
> represents a single memory section.  A new file 'end_phys_index'
> in each directory contains the physical_id of the last memory
> section covered by the directory so that users can easily
> determine the memory section range of a directory.

What you're proposing appears to be a non-back-compatible
userspace-visible change.  This is a big issue!

It's not an unresolvable issue, as this is a must-fix problem.  But you
should tell us what your proposal is to prevent breakage of existing
installations.  A Kconfig option would be good, but a boot-time kernel
command line option which selects the new format would be much better.

However you didn't mention this issue at all, and it's the most
important one.


> Updates for version 5 of the patchset include the following:
> 
> Patch 4/8 Add mutex for add/remove of memory blocks
> - Define the mutex using DEFINE_MUTEX macro.
> 
> Patch 8/8 Update memory-hotplug documentation
> - Add information concerning memory holes in phys_index..end_phys_index.

And you forgot to tell us how long those machines boot with the
patchset applied, which is the entire point of the patchset!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-08-12 19:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-09 17:53 [PATCH 0/8] v5 De-couple sysfs memory directories from memory sections Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 18:35 ` [PATCH 1/8] v5 Move the find_memory_block() routine up Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 18:36 ` [PATCH 2/8] v5 Add new phys_index properties Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 18:37 ` [PATCH 3/8] v5 Add section count to memory_block Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 18:38 ` [PATCH 4/8] v5 Add mutex for add/remove of memory blocks Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 18:39 ` [PATCH 5/8] v5 Allow memory_block to span multiple memory sections Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 18:41 ` [PATCH 6/8] v5 Update the node sysfs code Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 18:42 ` [PATCH 7/8] v5 Define memory_block_size_bytes() for ppc/pseries Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 18:43 ` [PATCH 8/8] v5 Update memory-hotplug documentation Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-09 20:44   ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2010-08-09 20:48     ` Nishanth Aravamudan
2010-08-10 12:17     ` Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-11 15:18 ` [PATCH 0/8] v5 De-couple sysfs memory directories from memory sections Dave Hansen
2010-08-12 19:08 ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2010-08-12 20:07   ` Dave Hansen
2010-08-16 14:34   ` Nathan Fontenot
2010-08-31 18:12     ` Dave Hansen
2010-08-31 21:57 ` Anton Blanchard
2010-09-02 17:39   ` Nathan Fontenot

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