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From: Stephen Wilson <wilsons@start.ca>
To: Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>
Cc: linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Paul Mundt <lethal@linux-sh.org>,
	linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	linux390@de.ibm.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Michel Lespinasse <walken@google.com>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] make *_gate_vma accept mm_struct instead of task_struct
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 11:40:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110310164022.GA6242@fibrous.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110310160032.GA20504@alboin.amr.corp.intel.com>


On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 08:00:32AM -0800, Andi Kleen wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 07:31:56PM -0500, Stephen Wilson wrote:
> > 
> > Morally, the question of whether an address lies in a gate vma should be asked
> > with respect to an mm, not a particular task.
> > 
> > Practically, dropping the dependency on task_struct will help make current and
> > future operations on mm's more flexible and convenient.  In particular, it
> > allows some code paths to avoid the need to hold task_lock.
> > 
> > The only architecture this change impacts in any significant way is x86_64.
> > The principle change on that architecture is to mirror TIF_IA32 via
> > a new flag in mm_context_t. 
> 
> The problem is -- you're adding a likely cache miss on mm_struct for
> every 32bit compat syscall now, even if they don't need mm_struct
> currently (and a lot of them do not) Unless there's a very good
> justification to make up for this performance issue elsewhere
> (including numbers) this seems like a bad idea.

I do not think this will result in cache misses on the scale you
suggest.  I am simply mirroring the *state* of the TIF_IA32 flag in
mm_struct, not testing/accessing it in the same way.

The only place where this flag is accessed (outside the exec() syscall
path) is in x86/mm/init_64.c, get_gate_vma(),  which in turn is needed
by a few, relatively heavy weight, page locking/pinning routines on the
mm side (get_user_pages, for example).  Patches 3 and 4 in the series
show the extent of the change.

Or am I missing something?


> > /proc/pid/mem.  I will be posting the second series to lkml shortly.  These
> 
> Making every syscall slower for /proc/pid/mem doesn't seem like a good
> tradeoff to me. Please solve this in some other way.
> 
> -Andi

-- 
steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-03-10 16:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-09  0:31 [PATCH 0/5] make *_gate_vma accept mm_struct instead of task_struct Stephen Wilson
2011-03-09  0:31 ` [PATCH 1/5] x86: add context tag to mark mm when running a task in 32-bit compatibility mode Stephen Wilson
2011-03-09  0:31 ` [PATCH 2/5] x86: mark associated mm when running a task in 32 bit " Stephen Wilson
2011-03-09  0:31 ` [PATCH 3/5] mm: arch: make get_gate_vma take an mm_struct instead of a task_struct Stephen Wilson
2011-03-09  0:32 ` [PATCH 4/5] mm: arch: make in_gate_area " Stephen Wilson
2011-03-09  0:32 ` [PATCH 5/5] mm: arch: rename in_gate_area_no_task to in_gate_area_no_mm Stephen Wilson
2011-03-09 13:09 ` [PATCH 0/5] make *_gate_vma accept mm_struct instead of task_struct Michel Lespinasse
2011-03-09 14:14   ` Stephen Wilson
2011-03-10 16:00 ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-10 16:38   ` [PATCH 0/5] make *_gate_vma accept mm_struct instead of task_struct II Andi Kleen
2011-03-10 16:54     ` Stephen Wilson
2011-03-10 17:03       ` Andi Kleen
2011-03-10 17:22       ` H. Peter Anvin
2011-03-10 16:40   ` Stephen Wilson [this message]
2011-03-10 17:15     ` [PATCH 0/5] make *_gate_vma accept mm_struct instead of task_struct H. Peter Anvin

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