From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering
Date: Fri, 13 May 2011 14:54:52 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20110513125452.GD3924@elte.hu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1305290612.2466.17.camel@twins>
* Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org> wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-05-13 at 14:39 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> >
> > > event_vfs_getname(result);
> > > result = check_event_vfs_getname(result);
>
> Another fundamental difference is how to treat the callback chains for
> these two.
>
> Observers won't have a return value and are assumed to never fail,
> therefore we can always call every entry on the callback list.
>
> Active things otoh do have a return value, and thus we need to have
> semantics that define what to do with that during callback iteration,
> when to continue and when to break. Thus for active elements its
> impossible to guarantee all entries will indeed be called.
I think the sanest semantics is to run all active callbacks as well.
For example if this is used for three stacked security policies - as if 3 LSM
modules were stacked at once. We'd call all three, and we'd determine that at
least one failed - and we'd return a failure.
Even if the first one failed already we'd still want to trigger *all* the
failures, because security policies like to know when they have triggered a
failure (regardless of other active policies) and want to see that failure
event (if they are logging such events).
So to me this looks pretty similar to observer callbacks as well, it's the
natural extension to an observer callback chain.
Observer callbacks are simply constant functions (to the caller), those which
never return failure and which never modify any of the parameters.
It's as if you argued that there should be separate syscalls/facilities for
handling readonly files versus handling read/write files.
Thanks,
Ingo
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-05-13 12:55 UTC|newest]
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2011-05-12 3:02 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Will Drewry
2011-05-12 7:48 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 9:24 ` Kees Cook
2011-05-12 10:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 11:44 ` James Morris
2011-05-12 13:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 16:26 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-16 12:55 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 14:42 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-13 0:18 ` James Morris
2011-05-13 12:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 12:19 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 12:26 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 12:39 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 12:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 12:54 ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2011-05-13 13:08 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 13:18 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 14:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 15:27 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-14 7:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 16:23 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-16 16:52 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 17:03 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-17 12:42 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17 13:05 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-17 13:19 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-19 4:07 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-19 12:22 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-19 21:05 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-24 15:59 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-24 16:20 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-24 16:25 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-24 19:00 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-24 19:54 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 20:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 10:35 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-25 15:01 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 17:43 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-29 20:17 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-25 17:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-05-26 8:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 9:15 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 20:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-24 20:14 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-13 15:17 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-13 15:29 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system callfiltering David Laight
2011-05-16 12:03 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 12:49 ` [PATCH 3/5] v2 seccomp_filters: Enable ftrace-based system call filtering Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 13:55 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 15:02 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-13 15:10 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-13 15:23 ` Peter Zijlstra
2011-05-13 15:55 ` Eric Paris
2011-05-13 16:29 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-14 7:30 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-14 20:57 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-16 12:43 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 15:29 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-17 12:57 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 0:36 ` James Morris
2011-05-16 15:08 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17 2:24 ` James Morris
2011-05-17 13:10 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-17 13:29 ` James Morris
2011-05-17 18:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-26 6:27 ` Pavel Machek
2011-05-26 8:35 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-12 12:15 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2011-05-12 11:33 ` James Morris
2011-05-13 19:35 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-14 20:58 ` Will Drewry
2011-05-15 6:42 ` Arnd Bergmann
2011-05-16 12:00 ` Ingo Molnar
2011-05-16 15:26 ` Steven Rostedt
2011-05-16 15:28 ` Will Drewry
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