From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from e38.co.us.ibm.com (e38.co.us.ibm.com [32.97.110.159]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "e38.co.us.ibm.com", Issuer "GeoTrust SSL CA" (not verified)) by ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F226AB701E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2012 04:11:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from /spool/local by e38.co.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:11:30 -0600 Received: from d03relay05.boulder.ibm.com (d03relay05.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.107]) by d03dlp01.boulder.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33821FF0048 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:11:26 -0600 (MDT) Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (d03av01.boulder.ibm.com [9.17.195.167]) by d03relay05.boulder.ibm.com (8.13.8/8.13.8/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id q31IBRVF221972 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:11:27 -0600 Received: from d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (loopback [127.0.0.1]) by d03av01.boulder.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.13.1/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id q31IBPGb024210 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2012 12:11:27 -0600 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2012 11:11:15 -0700 From: "Paul E. McKenney" To: Borislav Petkov , linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-alpha@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, uclinux-dist-devel@blackfin.uclinux.org, linux-hexagon@vger.kernel.org, linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org, linux-m32r@ml.linux-m32r.org, linux-m32r-ja@ml.linux-m32r.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-am33-list@redhat.com, linux-parisc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org, tglx@linutronix.de, linux@arm.linux.org.uk, dhowells@redhat.com, jejb@parisc-linux.org, linux390@de.ibm.com, x86@kernel.org, cmetcalf@tilera.com Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC] Simplify the Linux kernel by reducing its state space Message-ID: <20120401181114.GY2450@linux.vnet.ibm.com> References: <20120331163321.GA15809@linux.vnet.ibm.com> <20120401100448.GD14848@liondog.tnic> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: <20120401100448.GD14848@liondog.tnic> Reply-To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 12:04:48PM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2012 at 12:33:21AM +0800, Paul E. McKenney wrote: > > Although there have been numerous complaints about the complexity of > > parallel programming (especially over the past 5-10 years), the plain > > truth is that the incremental complexity of parallel programming over > > that of sequential programming is not as large as is commonly believed. > > Despite that you might have heard, the mind-numbing complexity of modern > > computer systems is not due so much to there being multiple CPUs, but > > rather to there being any CPUs at all. In short, for the ultimate in > > computer-system simplicity, the optimal choice is NR_CPUS=0. > > > > This commit therefore limits kernel builds to zero CPUs. This change > > has the beneficial side effect of rendering all kernel bugs harmless. > > Furthermore, this commit enables additional beneficial changes, for > > example, the removal of those parts of the kernel that are not needed > > when there are zero CPUs. > > > > Signed-off-by: Paul E. McKenney > > Reviewed-by: Thomas Gleixner > > Looks good, thanks for doing that. > > Btw, I just got confirmation from hw folk that we can actually give you > hardware support for that code with an upcoming CPU which has NR_CPUS=0 > cores. > > Oh, and additionally, we can disable some of those so getting into the > negative is also doable from the hw perspective, so feel free to explore > that side of the problem too. > > ACK. Cute! ;-) Thanx, Paul