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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>
Cc: linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paul.mckenney@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: linux-next ppc64: RCU mods cause __might_sleep BUGs
Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 17:14:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120503001433.GO2450@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANsGZ6bw4JwMRgUriooDvFB=g-HkpyL8XJa9s47RPfOEPCMcpw@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, May 02, 2012 at 03:54:24PM -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 2:54 PM, Paul E. McKenney
> <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 03, 2012 at 07:20:15AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> >> On Wed, 2012-05-02 at 13:25 -0700, Hugh Dickins wrote:
> >> > Got it at last.  Embarrassingly obvious.  __rcu_read_lock() and
> >> > __rcu_read_unlock() are not safe to be using __this_cpu operations,
> >> > the cpu may change in between the rmw's read and write: they should
> >> > be using this_cpu operations (or, I put preempt_disable/enable in the
> >> > __rcu_read_unlock below).  __this_cpus there work out fine on x86,
> >> > which was given good instructions to use; but not so well on PowerPC.
> >> >
> >> > I've been running successfully for an hour now with the patch below;
> >> > but I expect you'll want to consider the tradeoffs, and may choose a
> >> > different solution.
> >>
> >> Didn't Linus recently rant about these __this_cpu vs this_cpu nonsense ?
> >>
> >> I thought that was going out..
> >
> > Linus did rant about __raw_get_cpu_var() because it cannot use the x86
> > %fs segement overrides a bit more than a month ago.  The __this_cpu
> > stuff is useful if you have preemption disabled -- avoids the extra
> > layer of preempt_disable().
> >
> > Or was this a different rant?
> 
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/11/29/321
> 
> I think it ended up with Christoph removing the more egregious
> variants, but this_cpu_that and __this_cpu_the_other remaining.

Ah, thank you for the pointer.

It would be nice to have the CPU transparency of x86 on other
architectures, but from what I can see, that would require dedicating
a register to this purpose -- and even then requires that the arch
have indexed addressing modes.  There are some other approaches, for
example, having __this_cpu_that() be located at a special address that
the scheduler treated as implicitly preempt_disable().  Or I suppose
that the arch-specific trap-handling code could fake it.  A little
bit messy, but the ability to access a given CPU's per-CPU variable
while running on that CPU does appear to have at least a couple of
uses -- inlining RCU and also making preempt_disable() use per-CPU
variables.

In any case, I must confess that I feel quite silly about my series
of patches.  I have reverted them aside from a couple that did useful
optimizations, and they should show up in -next shortly.

							Thanx, Paul

  reply	other threads:[~2012-05-03  0:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-04-30 22:37 linux-next ppc64: RCU mods cause __might_sleep BUGs Hugh Dickins
2012-04-30 23:14 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-01  0:33 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-01  5:10   ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-01 14:22     ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-01 21:42       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-01 23:25         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-02 20:25           ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-02 20:49             ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-02 21:32               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-02 21:36                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-02 21:20             ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2012-05-02 21:54               ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-02 22:54                 ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-03  0:14                   ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2012-05-03  0:24                     ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-07 16:21                       ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-07 18:50                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2012-05-07 21:38                           ` Hugh Dickins
2012-05-01 13:39   ` Paul E. McKenney

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