From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: peterz@infradead.org, antonb@thinktux.localdomain,
lkml <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Jim Keniston <jkenisto@us.ibm.com>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 1/2] uprobes: Pass probed vaddr to arch_uprobe_analyze_insn()
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2012 20:19:34 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120614181934.GA9424@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20120614114514.GA12051@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 06/14, Srikar Dronamraju wrote:
>
> * Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com> [2012-06-13 21:15:19]:
>
> > For example. Suppose there is some instruction in /lib64/libc.so which
> > is valid for 64-bit, but not for 32-bit.
> >
> > Suppose that a 32-bit application does mmap("/lib64/libc.so", PROT_EXEC).
> >
>
> How correct is it to have a 32 bit binary link to a 64 bit binary/library?
No, I didn't mean this. I guess you misunderstood my point, see below.
> > Now. If vma_prio_tree_foreach() finds this 32-bit mm first, uprobe_register()
> > fails even if there are other 64-bit applications which could be traced.
> >
> > Or. uprobe_register() succeeds because it finds a 64-bit mm first, and
> > then that 32-bit application actually executes the invalid insn.
> >
> > We can move arch_uprobe_analyze_insn() outside of !UPROBE_COPY_INSN block.
> >
> > Or, perhaps, validate_insn_bits() should call both
> > validate_insn_32bits() and validate_insn_64bits(), and set the
> > UPROBE_VALID_IF_32 / UPROBE_VALID_IF_64 flags. install_breakpoint()
> > should do the additinal check before set_swbp() and verify that
> > .ia32_compat matches UPROBE_VALID_IF_*.
> >
>
> > What do you think?
> >
>
> Lets say we do find a 32 bit app and 64 bit app using the same library
> and the underlying instruction is valid for tracing in 64 bit and not 32
> bit. So when we are registering, and failed to insert a breakpoint for
> the 32 bit app, should we just bail out or should we return a failure?
I do not really know, I tend to think we should not fail. But this is
another story...
Look. Suppose that a 32-bit app starts after uprobe_register() succeeds.
In this case we have no option, uprobe_mmap()->install_breakpoint()
should "silently" fail. Currently it doesn't, this is one of the reasons
why I think the validation logic is wrong.
And. if install_breakpoint() can fail later anyway (in this case), then
I think uprobe_register() should not fail.
But probably this needs more discussion.
> I would probably prefer to read the underlying file something similar to
> what exec does and based on the magic decipher if we should verify for
> 32 bit instructions or 64 bit instructions.
But this can't protect from the malicious user who does
mmap(64-bit-code, PROT_EXEC) from a 32-bit app, and this can confuse
uprobes even if that 32-bit app never tries to actually execute that
64-bit-code.
That is why I think we need the additional (and arch-dependant) check
before every set_swbp(), but arch_uprobe_analyze_insn/etc should not
depend on task/mm/vaddr/whatever.
Oleg.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2012-06-14 18:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2012-06-08 9:32 [PATCH v2 1/2] uprobes: Pass probed vaddr to arch_uprobe_analyze_insn() Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2012-06-08 9:34 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] [POWERPC] uprobes: powerpc port Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli
2012-06-11 16:12 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] uprobes: Pass probed vaddr to arch_uprobe_analyze_insn() Oleg Nesterov
2012-06-11 19:09 ` Q: a_ops->readpage() && struct file Oleg Nesterov
2012-06-13 9:58 ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-06-13 19:19 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-06-12 16:54 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] uprobes: Pass probed vaddr to arch_uprobe_analyze_insn() Srikar Dronamraju
2012-06-12 17:43 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-06-13 19:15 ` Oleg Nesterov
2012-06-14 11:45 ` Srikar Dronamraju
2012-06-14 18:19 ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
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