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From: Michael Ellerman <michael@ellerman.id.au>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: Vince Weaver <vincent.weaver@maine.edu>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Stephane Eranian <eranian@google.com>,
	Vince Weaver <vince@deater.net>,
	acme@redhat.com, paulus@samba.org,
	xiaoguangrong@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	Runzhen Wang <runzhen@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	sukadev@linux.vnet.ibm.com, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	mingo@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/2] perf tools: Make Power7 events available for perf
Date: Wed, 10 Jul 2013 13:09:26 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130710030926.GD7491@concordia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130709081434.GI25631@dyad.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Tue, Jul 09, 2013 at 10:14:34AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 10:24:34PM -0400, Vince Weaver wrote:
> > 
> > So something like they have on ARM?
> > 
> > vince@pandaboard:/sys/bus/event_source/devices$ ls -l
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul  8 21:57 ARMv7 Cortex-A9 -> ../../../devices/ARMv7 Cortex-A9
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul  8 21:57 breakpoint -> ../../../devices/breakpoint
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul  8 21:57 software -> ../../../devices/software
> > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Jul  8 21:57 tracepoint -> ../../../devices/tracepoint
> 
> Right so what I remember of the ARM case is that their /proc/cpuinfo isn't
> sufficient to identify their PMU. And they don't have a cpuid like instruction
> at all.
> 
> > > For the cpu you can obviously just detect what processor you're on with
> > > cpuid or whatever, but it's a bit of a hack. And that really doesn't
> > > work for non-cpu PMUs.
> > 
> > why is it a hack to use cpuid?
> 
> I agree, for x86 cpuid is perfectly fine, as would /proc/cpuinfo be, I suspect
> that just the model number is sufficient in most cases, even for uncore stuff.
 
What about things on PCI? Other strange buses?

As long as everything's in /sys then it should be _possible_ for
userspace to work out what's what, but it's going to end up with a bunch
of detection logic and heuristics in the library.

At which point you've just rewritten libpfm4.

cheers

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-10  3:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-06-25 14:35 [PATCH v2 0/2] perf tools: Power7 events name available for perf Runzhen Wang
2013-06-25 14:35 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] perf tools: fix a typo of a Power7 event name Runzhen Wang
2013-06-27 14:26   ` Michael Ellerman
2013-06-25 14:35 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] perf tools: Make Power7 events available for perf Runzhen Wang
2013-06-25 16:46   ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-04 12:52     ` Michael Ellerman
2013-07-04 12:57       ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-05 10:23         ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-09  1:29         ` Michael Ellerman
2013-07-09  2:24           ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-09  3:34             ` Michael Ellerman
2013-07-09 15:20               ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-10  2:37                 ` Michael Ellerman
2013-07-09  8:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2013-07-09 15:05               ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-11 10:58                 ` Will Deacon
2013-07-11 17:53                   ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-10  3:09               ` Michael Ellerman [this message]
2013-07-10  8:34                 ` Ingo Molnar
2013-07-11  4:42                   ` Vince Weaver
2013-07-11  6:58                     ` Michael Ellerman
2013-06-27 14:23   ` Michael Ellerman

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