From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>,
Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 1/6] powerpc: atomic: Make *xchg and *cmpxchg a full barrier
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 11:35:44 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151015103510.GA27524@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151014214453.GC3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Dammit guys, it's never simple is it?
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 02:44:53PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> To that end, the herd tool can make a diagram of what it thought
> happened, and I have attached it. I used this diagram to try and force
> this scenario at https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~pes20/ppcmem/index.html#PPC,
> and succeeded. Here is the sequence of events:
>
> o Commit P0's write. The model offers to propagate this write
> to the coherence point and to P1, but don't do so yet.
>
> o Commit P1's write. Similar offers, but don't take them up yet.
>
> o Commit P0's lwsync.
>
> o Execute P0's lwarx, which reads a=0. Then commit it.
>
> o Commit P0's stwcx. as successful. This stores a=1.
On arm64, this is a conditional-store-*release* and therefore cannot be
observed before the initial write to x...
> o Commit P0's branch (not taken).
>
> o Commit P0's final register-to-register move.
>
> o Commit P1's sync instruction.
>
> o There is now nothing that can happen in either processor.
> P0 is done, and P1 is waiting for its sync. Therefore,
> propagate P1's a=2 write to the coherence point and to
> the other thread.
... therefore this is illegal, because you haven't yet propagated that
prior write...
>
> o There is still nothing that can happen in either processor.
> So pick the barrier propagate, then the acknowledge sync.
>
> o P1 can now execute its read from x. Because P0's write to
> x is still waiting to propagate to P1, this still reads
> x=0. Execute and commit, and we now have both r3 registers
> equal to zero and the final value a=2.
... and P1 would have to read x == 1.
So arm64 is ok. Doesn't lwsync order store->store observability for PPC?
Will
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-10-15 10:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-10-14 15:55 [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 0/6] atomics: powerpc: Implement relaxed/acquire/release variants of some atomics Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 1/6] powerpc: atomic: Make *xchg and *cmpxchg a full barrier Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 20:19 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-14 21:04 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-14 21:44 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 0:53 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 1:22 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 3:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 3:07 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 4:48 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 16:30 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-19 0:19 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 3:11 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 3:33 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 10:35 ` Will Deacon [this message]
2015-10-15 14:40 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 14:50 ` Will Deacon
2015-10-15 16:29 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 15:42 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 14:49 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 16:16 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-20 7:15 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-20 9:21 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-20 21:28 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21 8:18 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-21 19:36 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26 2:06 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-26 2:20 ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-26 8:55 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-26 3:20 ` Paul Mackerras
2015-10-26 8:58 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-21 8:45 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-21 19:35 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21 19:48 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-22 12:07 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-24 10:26 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-24 11:53 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-25 13:14 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 2/6] atomics: Add test for atomic operations with _relaxed variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 3/6] atomics: Allow architectures to define their own __atomic_op_* helpers Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 4/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement atomic{, 64}_*_return_* variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:56 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 5/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement xchg_* and atomic{, 64}_xchg_* variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:56 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 6/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement cmpxchg{, 64}_* and atomic{, 64}_cmpxchg_* variants Boqun Feng
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