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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>,
	Davidlohr Bueso <dave@stgolabs.net>,
	stable@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 1/6] powerpc: atomic: Make *xchg and *cmpxchg a full barrier
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2015 09:16:13 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151015161613.GH3910@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151015144923.GE14305@fixme-laptop.cn.ibm.com>

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 10:49:23PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 01:19:17PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 11:55:56PM +0800, Boqun Feng wrote:
> > > According to memory-barriers.txt, xchg, cmpxchg and their atomic{,64}_
> > > versions all need to imply a full barrier, however they are now just
> > > RELEASE+ACQUIRE, which is not a full barrier.
> > > 
> > > So replace PPC_RELEASE_BARRIER and PPC_ACQUIRE_BARRIER with
> > > PPC_ATOMIC_ENTRY_BARRIER and PPC_ATOMIC_EXIT_BARRIER in
> > > __{cmp,}xchg_{u32,u64} respectively to guarantee a full barrier
> > > semantics of atomic{,64}_{cmp,}xchg() and {cmp,}xchg().
> > > 
> > > This patch is a complement of commit b97021f85517 ("powerpc: Fix
> > > atomic_xxx_return barrier semantics").
> > > 
> > > Acked-by: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
> > > Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org> # 3.4+
> > > Signed-off-by: Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>
> > > ---
> > >  arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h | 16 ++++++++--------
> > >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
> > > 
> > > diff --git a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h
> > > index ad6263c..d1a8d93 100644
> > > --- a/arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h
> > > +++ b/arch/powerpc/include/asm/cmpxchg.h
> > > @@ -18,12 +18,12 @@ __xchg_u32(volatile void *p, unsigned long val)
> > >  	unsigned long prev;
> > > 
> > >  	__asm__ __volatile__(
> > > -	PPC_RELEASE_BARRIER
> > > +	PPC_ATOMIC_ENTRY_BARRIER
> > 
> > This looks to be the lwsync instruction.
> > 
> > >  "1:	lwarx	%0,0,%2 \n"
> > >  	PPC405_ERR77(0,%2)
> > >  "	stwcx.	%3,0,%2 \n\
> > >  	bne-	1b"
> > > -	PPC_ACQUIRE_BARRIER
> > > +	PPC_ATOMIC_EXIT_BARRIER
> > 
> > And this looks to be the sync instruction.
> > 
> > >  	: "=&r" (prev), "+m" (*(volatile unsigned int *)p)
> > >  	: "r" (p), "r" (val)
> > >  	: "cc", "memory");
> > 
> > Hmmm...
> > 
> > Suppose we have something like the following, where "a" and "x" are both
> > initially zero:
> > 
> > 	CPU 0				CPU 1
> > 	-----				-----
> > 
> > 	WRITE_ONCE(x, 1);		WRITE_ONCE(a, 2);
> > 	r3 = xchg(&a, 1);		smp_mb();
> > 					r3 = READ_ONCE(x);
> > 
> > If xchg() is fully ordered, we should never observe both CPUs'
> > r3 values being zero, correct?
> > 
> > And wouldn't this be represented by the following litmus test?
> > 
> > 	PPC SB+lwsync-RMW2-lwsync+st-sync-leading
> > 	""
> > 	{
> > 	0:r1=1; 0:r2=x; 0:r3=3; 0:r10=0 ; 0:r11=0; 0:r12=a;
> > 	1:r1=2; 1:r2=x; 1:r3=3; 1:r10=0 ; 1:r11=0; 1:r12=a;
> > 	}
> > 	 P0                 | P1                 ;
> > 	 stw r1,0(r2)       | stw r1,0(r12)      ;
> > 	 lwsync             | sync               ;
> > 	 lwarx  r11,r10,r12 | lwz r3,0(r2)       ;
> > 	 stwcx. r1,r10,r12  | ;
> > 	 bne Fail0          | ;
> > 	 mr r3,r11          | ;
> > 	 Fail0:             | ;
> > 	exists
> > 	(0:r3=0 /\ a=2 /\ 1:r3=0)
> > 
> > I left off P0's trailing sync because there is nothing for it to order
> > against in this particular litmus test.  I tried adding it and verified
> > that it has no effect.
> > 
> > Am I missing something here?  If not, it seems to me that you need
> > the leading lwsync to instead be a sync.
> > 
> 
> If so, I will define PPC_ATOMIC_ENTRY_BARRIER as "sync" in the next
> version of this patch, any concern?
> 
> Of course, I will wait to do that until we all understand this is
> nececarry and agree to make the change.

I am in favor, but I am not the maintainer.  ;-)

							Thanx, Paul

> > Of course, if I am not missing something, then this applies also to the
> > value-returning RMW atomic operations that you pulled this pattern from.
> 
> For the value-returning RMW atomics, if the leading barrier is
> necessarily to be "sync", I will just remove my __atomic_op_fence() in
> patch 4, but I will remain patch 3 unchanged for the consistency of
> __atomic_op_*() macros' definitions. Peter and Will, do that works for
> you both?
> 
> Regards,
> Boqun
> 
> > If so, it would seem that I didn't think through all the possibilities
> > back when PPC_ATOMIC_EXIT_BARRIER moved to sync...  In fact, I believe
> > that I worried about the RMW atomic operation acting as a barrier,
> > but not as the load/store itself.  :-/
> > 
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> > 

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-15 16:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-14 15:55 [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 0/6] atomics: powerpc: Implement relaxed/acquire/release variants of some atomics Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 1/6] powerpc: atomic: Make *xchg and *cmpxchg a full barrier Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 20:19   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-14 21:04     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-14 21:44       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15  0:53         ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15  1:22           ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15  3:07             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15  3:07           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15  4:48             ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 16:30               ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-19  0:19                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15  3:11           ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15  3:33             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 10:35         ` Will Deacon
2015-10-15 14:40           ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 14:50           ` Will Deacon
2015-10-15 16:29             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 15:42           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-15 14:49     ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-15 16:16       ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2015-10-20  7:15     ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-20  9:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-20 21:28         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21  8:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-21 19:36             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-26  2:06               ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-26  2:20               ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-26  8:55                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-26  3:20             ` Paul Mackerras
2015-10-26  8:58               ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-21  8:45           ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-21 19:35             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-10-21 19:48               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-22 12:07                 ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-24 10:26                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-10-24 11:53                     ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-25 13:14                       ` Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 2/6] atomics: Add test for atomic operations with _relaxed variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 3/6] atomics: Allow architectures to define their own __atomic_op_* helpers Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:55 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 4/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement atomic{, 64}_*_return_* variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:56 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 5/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement xchg_* and atomic{, 64}_xchg_* variants Boqun Feng
2015-10-14 15:56 ` [PATCH tip/locking/core v4 6/6] powerpc: atomic: Implement cmpxchg{, 64}_* and atomic{, 64}_cmpxchg_* variants Boqun Feng

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