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From: David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>
To: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	thuth@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] powerpc: on crash, kexec'ed kernel needs all CPUs are online
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:29:43 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151016132943.1386fda6@voom.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1444935658-27319-1-git-send-email-lvivier@redhat.com>

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On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 21:00:58 +0200
Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com> wrote:

> On kexec, all secondary offline CPUs are onlined before
> starting the new kernel, this is not done in the case of kdump.
> 
> If kdump is configured and a kernel crash occurs whereas
> some secondaries CPUs are offline (SMT=off),
> the new kernel is not able to start them and displays some
> "Processor X is stuck.".
> 
> Starting with POWER8, subcore logic relies on all threads of
> core being booted. So, on startup kernel tries to start all
> threads, and asks OPAL (or RTAS) to start all CPUs (including
> threads). If a CPU has been offlined by the previous kernel,
> it has not been returned to OPAL, and thus OPAL cannot restart
> it: this CPU has been lost...
> 
> Signed-off-by: Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>

Nice analysis of the problem.  But, I'm a bit uneasy about this approach
to fixing it: Onlining potentially hundreds of CPU threads seems like
a risky operation in a kernel that's already crashed.

I don't have a terribly clear idea of what is the best way to address
this.  Here's a few ideas in the right general direction:

  * I'm already looking into a kdump userspace fixes to stop it
    attempting to bring up secondary CPUs

  * A working kernel option to say "only allow this many online cpus
    ever" which we could pass to the kdump kernel would be nice

  * Paulus had an idea about offline threads returning themselves
    directly to OPAL by kicking a flag at kdump/kexec time.


BenH, Paulus,

OPAL <-> kernel cpu transitions don't seem to work quite how I thought
they would.  IIUC there's a register we can use to directly control
which threads on a core are active.  Given that I would have thought
cpu "ownership" OPAL vs. kernel would be on a per-core, rather than
per-thread basis.

Is there some way we can change the CPU onlining / offlining code so
that if threads aren't in OPAL, we directly enable them, rather than
just hoping they're in a nap loop somewhere?

-- 
David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>
Senior Software Engineer, Virtualization, Red Hat

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-16  2:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-15 19:00 [PATCH] powerpc: on crash, kexec'ed kernel needs all CPUs are online Laurent Vivier
2015-10-16  0:27 ` kbuild test robot
2015-10-16  2:14 ` Michael Ellerman
2015-10-16  7:48   ` Laurent Vivier
2015-10-17  2:01     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-10-16  2:29 ` David Gibson [this message]
2015-10-16  7:57   ` Laurent Vivier
2015-10-17  2:03     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2015-11-04 12:34 ` Hari Bathini
2015-11-04 13:54   ` Laurent Vivier
2015-11-05  1:32     ` David Gibson
2015-11-05  6:59       ` Stewart Smith
2015-11-05 10:23       ` Hari Bathini

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