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From: Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@de.ibm.com>
To: "Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
	"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
	linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
	Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] random kernel crashes after THP rework on s390 (maybe also on PowerPC and ARM)
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 12:59:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160212125943.1eb2ca9d@thinkpad> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87a8n6shf2.fsf@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:34:33 +0530
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:

> Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@de.ibm.com> writes:
> 
> > On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 21:09:42 +0200
> > "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 07:22:23PM +0100, Gerald Schaefer wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> > 
> >> > Sebastian Ott reported random kernel crashes beginning with v4.5-rc1 and
> >> > he also bisected this to commit 61f5d698 "mm: re-enable THP". Further
> >> > review of the THP rework patches, which cannot be bisected, revealed
> >> > commit fecffad "s390, thp: remove infrastructure for handling splitting PMDs"
> >> > (and also similar commits for other archs).
> >> > 
> >> > This commit removes the THP splitting bit and also the architecture
> >> > implementation of pmdp_splitting_flush(), which took care of the IPI for
> >> > fast_gup serialization. The commit message says
> >> > 
> >> >     pmdp_splitting_flush() is not needed too: on splitting PMD we will do
> >> >     pmdp_clear_flush() + set_pte_at().  pmdp_clear_flush() will do IPI as
> >> >     needed for fast_gup
> >> > 
> >> > The assumption that a TLB flush will also produce an IPI is wrong on s390,
> >> > and maybe also on other architectures, and I thought that this was actually
> >> > the main reason for having an arch-specific pmdp_splitting_flush().
> >> > 
> >> > At least PowerPC and ARM also had an individual implementation of
> >> > pmdp_splitting_flush() that used kick_all_cpus_sync() instead of a TLB
> >> > flush to send the IPI, and those were also removed. Putting the arch
> >> > maintainers and mailing lists on cc to verify.
> >> > 
> >> > On s390 this will break the IPI serialization against fast_gup, which
> >> > would certainly explain the random kernel crashes, please revert or fix
> >> > the pmdp_splitting_flush() removal.
> >> 
> >> Sorry for that.
> >> 
> >> I believe, the problem was already addressed for PowerPC:
> >> 
> >> http://lkml.kernel.org/g/454980831-16631-1-git-send-email-aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com
> >> 
> >> I think kick_all_cpus_sync() in arch-specific pmdp_invalidate() would do
> >> the trick, right?
> >
> > Hmm, not sure about that. After pmdp_invalidate(), a pmd_none() check in
> > fast_gup will still return false, because the pmd is not empty (at least
> > on s390).
> 
> Why can't we do this ? I did this for ppc64.
> 
>  void pmdp_invalidate(struct vm_area_struct *vma, unsigned long address,
>  		     pmd_t *pmdp)
>  {
> -	pmd_hugepage_update(vma->vm_mm, address, pmdp, _PAGE_PRESENT, 0);
> +	pmd_hugepage_update(vma->vm_mm, address, pmdp, ~0UL, 0);
> 

Wouldn't that semantically change what pmdp_invalidate() was supposed to
do? The comment before the call says "the pmd_trans_huge and
pmd_trans_splitting must remain set at all times on the pmd". So, after
removing pmd_trans_splitting, it seems to be necessary to at least keep
pmd_trans_huge set.

In your case, the pmd would be completely cleared, which may help to find
it in fast_gup with pmd_none(), but I'm not sure if this would open up
other problems, e.g. with concurrent page faults. But I must also admit that
my THP overview got a little rusty.

> >So I don't see spontaneously how it will help fast_gup to break
> > out to the slow path in case of THP splitting.
> >
> >> 
> >> If yes, I'll prepare patch tomorrow (some sleep required).
> >> 
> >
> > We'll check if adding kick_all_cpus_sync() to pmdp_invalidate() helps.
> > It would also be good if Martin has a look at this, he'll return on
> > Monday.
> 
> -aneesh
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-12 11:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-11 18:22 [BUG] random kernel crashes after THP rework on s390 (maybe also on PowerPC and ARM) Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-11 19:09 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-11 19:12   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-12 12:21     ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-11 19:57   ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-12  4:04     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-02-12 11:59       ` Gerald Schaefer [this message]
2016-02-12 16:17         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-02-12 10:01     ` Will Deacon
2016-02-12 10:12       ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-12 15:52         ` Will Deacon
2016-02-12 15:41     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-12 15:57       ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-12 17:16         ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-12 23:15           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-13 11:58             ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-15 11:31               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-15 16:38                 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-15 18:37                 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-15 21:35                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-16  9:54                     ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-16 16:24                     ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-17 15:04                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-17 19:04                         ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-16 18:46                     ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-17 19:13               ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-17 23:58                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-18 15:00                   ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-18 17:06                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-19 14:15                       ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-15 16:41             ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-23 10:32           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-23 17:46             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-23 18:19             ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-23 18:47               ` Will Deacon
2016-02-25 15:49                 ` Steve Capper
2016-02-25 16:01                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-25 16:08                     ` Steve Capper
2016-02-23 19:33               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-23 20:22                 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-24 10:16                   ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-24 10:41                     ` Will Deacon
2016-02-24 10:51                       ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-24 11:02                         ` Will Deacon
2016-02-24 17:22                         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-02-24  8:39                 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-02-24 12:11                   ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-24 16:44                 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-24  8:22               ` Martin Schwidefsky

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