From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from e19.ny.us.ibm.com (e19.ny.us.ibm.com [129.33.205.209]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher CAMELLIA256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.ozlabs.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 799521A03B4 for ; Tue, 16 Feb 2016 04:58:27 +1100 (AEDT) Received: from localhost by e19.ny.us.ibm.com with IBM ESMTP SMTP Gateway: Authorized Use Only! Violators will be prosecuted for from ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:58:23 -0500 Received: from b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com (b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com [9.57.198.27]) by d01dlp02.pok.ibm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABF746E8041 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:45:12 -0500 (EST) Received: from d01av01.pok.ibm.com (d01av01.pok.ibm.com [9.56.224.215]) by b01cxnp23032.gho.pok.ibm.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/NCO v10.0) with ESMTP id u1FHwKa736372500 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 17:58:20 GMT Received: from d01av01.pok.ibm.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by d01av01.pok.ibm.com (8.14.4/8.14.4/NCO v10.0 AVout) with ESMTP id u1FHwJQp027185 for ; Mon, 15 Feb 2016 12:58:20 -0500 Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2016 09:58:25 -0800 From: "Paul E. McKenney" To: will.deacon@arm.com, Andy.Glew@imgtec.com, Leonid.Yegoshin@imgtec.com, peterz@infradead.org, linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, arnd@arndb.de, davem@davemloft.net, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, linux-metag@vger.kernel.org, linux-mips@linux-mips.org, linux-xtensa@linux-xtensa.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org Cc: graham.whaley@gmail.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org, hpa@zytor.com, mingo@kernel.org Subject: Writes, smp_wmb(), and transitivity? Message-ID: <20160215175825.GA15878@linux.vnet.ibm.com> Reply-To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii List-Id: Linux on PowerPC Developers Mail List List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Hello! Some architectures provide local transitivity for a chain of threads doing writes separated by smp_wmb(), as exemplified by the litmus tests below. The pattern is that each thread writes to a its own variable, does an smp_wmb(), then writes a different value to the next thread's variable. I don't know of a use of this, but if everyone supports it, it might be good to mandate it. Status quo is that smp_wmb() is non-transitive, so it currently isn't supported. Anyone know of any architectures that do -not- support this? Assuming all architectures -do- support this, any arguments -against- officially supporting it in Linux? Thanx, Paul ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Two threads: int a, b; void thread0(void) { WRITE_ONCE(a, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(b, 2); } void thread1(void) { WRITE_ONCE(b, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(a, 2); } /* After all threads have completed and the dust has settled... */ BUG_ON(a == 1 && b == 1); Three threads: int a, b, c; void thread0(void) { WRITE_ONCE(a, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(b, 2); } void thread1(void) { WRITE_ONCE(b, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(c, 2); } void thread2(void) { WRITE_ONCE(c, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(a, 2); } /* After all threads have completed and the dust has settled... */ BUG_ON(a == 1 && b == 1 && c == 1); Four threads: int a, b, c, d; void thread0(void) { WRITE_ONCE(a, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(b, 2); } void thread1(void) { WRITE_ONCE(b, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(c, 2); } void thread2(void) { WRITE_ONCE(c, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(d, 2); } void thread3(void) { WRITE_ONCE(d, 1); smp_wmb(); WRITE_ONCE(a, 2); } /* After all threads have completed and the dust has settled... */ BUG_ON(a == 1 && b == 1 && c == 1 && d == 1); And so on...