From: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
To: Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@de.ibm.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
"Aneesh Kumar K.V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
linux-s390@vger.kernel.org,
Sebastian Ott <sebott@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [BUG] random kernel crashes after THP rework on s390 (maybe also on PowerPC and ARM)
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2016 09:22:08 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160224092208.49e013ff@mschwide> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160223191907.25719a4d@thinkpad>
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 19:19:07 +0100
Gerald Schaefer <gerald.schaefer@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 13:32:21 +0300
> "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 06:16:40PM +0100, Gerald Schaefer wrote:
> > > On Fri, 12 Feb 2016 16:57:27 +0100
> > > Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > I'm also confused by pmd_none() is equal to !pmd_present() on s390. Hm?
> > > >
> > > > Don't know, Gerald or Martin?
> > >
> > > The implementation frequently changes depending on how many new bits Martin
> > > needs to squeeze out :-)
> > > We don't have a _PAGE_PRESENT bit for pmds, so pmd_present() just checks if the
> > > entry is not empty. pmd_none() of course does the opposite, it checks if it is
> > > empty.
> >
> > I still worry about pmd_present(). It looks wrong to me. I wounder if
> > patch below makes a difference.
> >
> > The theory is that the splitting bit effetely masked bogus pmd_present():
> > we had pmd_trans_splitting() in all code path and that prevented mm from
> > touching the pmd. Once pmd_trans_splitting() has gone, mm proceed with the
> > pmd where it shouldn't and here's a boom.
>
> Well, I don't think pmd_present() == true is bogus for a trans_huge pmd under
> splitting, after all there is a page behind the the pmd. Also, if it was
> bogus, and it would need to be false, why should it be marked !pmd_present()
> only at the pmdp_invalidate() step before the pmd_populate()? It clearly
> is pmd_present() before that, on all architectures, and if there was any
> problem/race with that, setting it to !pmd_present() at this stage would
> only (marginally) reduce the race window.
>
> BTW, PowerPC and Sparc seem to do the same thing in pmdp_invalidate(),
> i.e. they do not set pmd_present() == false, only mark it so that it would
> not generate a new TLB entry, just like on s390. After all, the function
> is called pmdp_invalidate(), and I think the comment in mm/huge_memory.c
> before that call is just a little ambiguous in its wording. When it says
> "mark the pmd notpresent" it probably means "mark it so that it will not
> generate a new TLB entry", which is also what the comment is really about:
> prevent huge and small entries in the TLB for the same page at the same
> time.
If I am not mistaken this is true for x86 as well. The generic implementation
for pmdp_invalidate sets a new pmd that has been modified with
pmd_mknotpresent. For x86 this function removes the _PAGE_PRESENT and
_PAGE_PROTNONE bits from the entry. The _PAGE_PSE bit stays set and that
makes pmd_present return true.
--
blue skies,
Martin.
"Reality continues to ruin my life." - Calvin.
prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-02-24 8:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-02-11 18:22 [BUG] random kernel crashes after THP rework on s390 (maybe also on PowerPC and ARM) Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-11 19:09 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-11 19:12 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-12 12:21 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-11 19:57 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-12 4:04 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-02-12 11:59 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-12 16:17 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-02-12 10:01 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-12 10:12 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-12 15:52 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-12 15:41 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-12 15:57 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-12 17:16 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-12 23:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-13 11:58 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-15 11:31 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-15 16:38 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-15 18:37 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-15 21:35 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-16 9:54 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-16 16:24 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-17 15:04 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-17 19:04 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-16 18:46 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-17 19:13 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-17 23:58 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-18 15:00 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-18 17:06 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-19 14:15 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-15 16:41 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-23 10:32 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-23 17:46 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-02-23 18:19 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-23 18:47 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-25 15:49 ` Steve Capper
2016-02-25 16:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-25 16:08 ` Steve Capper
2016-02-23 19:33 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2016-02-23 20:22 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-24 10:16 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-24 10:41 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-24 10:51 ` Christian Borntraeger
2016-02-24 11:02 ` Will Deacon
2016-02-24 17:22 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2016-02-24 8:39 ` Martin Schwidefsky
2016-02-24 12:11 ` Sebastian Ott
2016-02-24 16:44 ` Gerald Schaefer
2016-02-24 8:22 ` Martin Schwidefsky [this message]
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