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From: Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	x86@kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: barriers: was: [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency model
Date: Wed, 4 May 2016 16:12:05 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160504141205.GS2749@pathway.suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160504123940.GR2749@pathway.suse.cz>

On Wed 2016-05-04 14:39:40, Petr Mladek wrote:
> 		 *
> 		 * Note that the task must never be migrated to the target
> 		 * state when being inside this ftrace handler.
> 		 */
> 
> We might want to move the second paragraph on top of the function.
> It is a basic and important fact. It actually explains why the first
> read barrier is not needed when the patch is being disabled.

I wrote the statement partly intuitively. I think that it is really
somehow important. And I am slightly in doubts if we are on the safe side.

First, why is it important that the task->patch_state is not switched
when being inside the ftrace handler?

If we are inside the handler, we are kind-of inside the called
function. And the basic idea of this consistency model is that
we must not switch a task when it is inside a patched function.
This is normally decided by the stack.

The handler is a bit special because it is called right before the
function. If it was the only patched function on the stack, it would
not matter if we choose the new or old code. Both decisions would
be safe for the moment.

The fun starts when the function calls another patched function.
The other patched function must be called consistently with
the first one. If the first function was from the patch,
the other must be from the patch as well and vice versa.

This is why we must not switch task->patch_state dangerously
when being inside the ftrace handler.

Now I am not sure if this condition is fulfilled. The ftrace handler
is called as the very first instruction of the function. Does not
it break the stack validity? Could we sleep inside the ftrace
handler? Will the patched function be detected on the stack?

Or is my brain already too far in the fantasy world?


Best regards,
Petr

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-05-04 14:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-28 20:44 [RFC PATCH v2 00/18] livepatch: hybrid consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/18] x86/asm/head: clean up initial stack variable Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/18] x86/asm/head: use a common function for starting CPUs Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the stack for idle tasks Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 18:46   ` Brian Gerst
2016-04-29 20:28     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 19:39   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 20:50     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 21:38       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 23:27         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-30  0:10           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/18] x86: move _stext marker before head code Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 18:06   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 20:11     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 20:19       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 20:27         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 20:32           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 21:25             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 21:37               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 22:11                 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-29 22:57                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-30  0:09                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 22:41                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-30  0:08                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-02 13:52                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-02 15:52                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-02 17:31                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-02 18:12                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-02 18:34                             ` Ingo Molnar
2016-05-02 19:44                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-02 19:54                             ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-02 20:00                               ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-03  0:39                                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-04 15:16                             ` David Laight
2016-05-19 23:15                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-19 23:39                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-20 14:05                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-20 15:41                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-20 16:41                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-20 16:59                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-20 17:49                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-23 23:02                                     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-24  1:42                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-23 21:34                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-24  2:28                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-24  3:52                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-22 16:30                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-22 17:59                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-22 18:22                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-22 18:26                                       ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-22 18:40                                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-22 19:17                                           ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 16:19                                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-23 16:35                                               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 18:31                                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-23 20:40                                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-23 22:00                                                     ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23  0:09                                   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 15:55                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/18] x86: dump_trace() error handling Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 13:45   ` Minfei Huang
2016-04-29 14:00     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/18] stacktrace/x86: function for detecting reliable stack traces Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/18] livepatch: temporary stubs for klp_patch_pending() and klp_patch_task() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/18] livepatch/x86: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 18:08   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 20:18     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/18] livepatch/powerpc: " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-03  9:07   ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-03 12:06     ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/18] livepatch/s390: reorganize TIF thread flag bits Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/18] livepatch/s390: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/18] livepatch: separate enabled and patched states Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-03  9:30   ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-03 13:48     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/18] livepatch: remove unnecessary object loaded check Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/18] livepatch: move patching functions into patch.c Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-03  9:39   ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/18] livepatch: store function sizes Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-04  8:42   ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 15:51     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-05  9:41       ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-05 13:06       ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 12:39   ` barriers: was: " Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 13:53     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-04 16:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-04 14:12     ` Petr Mladek [this message]
2016-05-04 17:25       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-05 11:21         ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-09 15:42         ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-04 17:02     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-05 10:21       ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 14:48   ` klp_task_patch: " Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 14:56     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-04 17:57     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-05 11:57       ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-06 12:38         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-09 12:23           ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-16 18:12             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-18 13:12               ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-06 11:33   ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-06 12:44     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-09  9:41   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-16 17:27     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-10 11:39   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-17 22:53   ` Jessica Yu
2016-05-18  8:16     ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-18 16:51       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-18 20:22         ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-23  9:42           ` David Laight
2016-05-23 18:44             ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-24 15:06               ` David Laight
2016-05-24 22:45                 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-06-06 13:54   ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] " Petr Mladek
2016-06-06 14:29     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/18] livepatch: add /proc/<pid>/patch_state Josh Poimboeuf

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