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From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Allow to mmap MSI-X table if interrupt remapping is supported
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 10:42:36 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160513104236.438a800a@t450s.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F854287@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>

On Fri, 13 May 2016 06:50:25 +0000
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:

> > From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 1:33 PM  
> > > >
> > > > As argued previously in this thread, there's nothing special about a
> > > > DMA write to memory versus a DMA write to a special address that
> > > > triggers an MSI vector.  If the device is DMA capable, which we assume
> > > > all are, it can be fooled into generating those DMA writes regardless
> > > > of whether we actively block access to the MSI-X vector table itself.  
> > >
> > > But with DMA remapping above can be blocked.  
> > 
> > How?  VT-d explicitly ignores DMA writes to 0xFEEx_xxxx, section 3.13:
> > 
> >   Write requests without PASID of DWORD length are treated as interrupt
> >   requests. Interrupt requests are not subjected to DMA remapping[...]
> >   Instead, remapping hardware can be enabled to subject such interrupt
> >   requests to interrupt remapping.  
> 
> Thanks for catching this!
> 
> >   
> > > > MSI-X vector table access w/o interrupt remapping is to avoid obvious
> > > > collisions if it were to be programmed directly, it doesn't actually
> > > > prevent an identical DMA transaction from being generated by other  
> > >
> > > Kernel can enable DMA remapping but disable IRQ remapping. In such
> > > case identical DMA transaction can be prevented.  
> > 
> > Not according to the VT-d spec as quoted above.  If so, how?  
> 
> So my argument on this is wrong. sorry.
> 
> >   
> > > Anyway my point is simple. Let's ignore how Linux kernel implements
> > > IRQ remapping on x86 (which may change time to time), and just
> > > focus on architectural possibility. Non-x86 platform may implement
> > > IRQ remapping completely separate from device side, then checking
> > > availability of IRQ remapping is enough to decide whether mmap
> > > MSI-X table is safe. x86 with VT-d can be configured to a mode
> > > requiring host control of both MSI-X entry and IRQ remapping hardware
> > > (without source id check). In such case it's insufficient to make
> > > decision simply based on IRQ remapping availability. We need a way
> > > to query from IRQ remapping module whether it's actually safe to
> > > mmap MSI-X.  
> > 
> > We're going in circles here.  This patch is attempting to remove
> > protection from the MSI-X vector table that is really nothing more than
> > security theater already.  That "protection" only actually prevents
> > casual misuse of the API which is really only a problem when the
> > platform offers no form of interrupt isolation, such as VT-d with DMA
> > remapping but not interrupt remapping.  Disabling source-id checking in
> > VT-d should be handled as the equivalent of disabling interrupt
> > remapping altogether as far as the IOMMU API is concerned.  That's
> > a trivial gap that should be fixed.  There is no such thing as a secure  
> 
> That is the main change I'm asking against original patch, which has:
> 
> +static void pci_check_msi_remapping(struct pci_dev *pdev,
> +					const struct iommu_ops *ops)
> +{
> +	struct pci_bus *bus = pdev->bus;
> +
> +	if (ops->capable(IOMMU_CAP_INTR_REMAP) &&
> +		!(bus->bus_flags & PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP))
> +		bus->bus_flags |= PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP;
> +}
> +
> 
> Above flag should be cleared when source-id checking is disabled on x86. 
> Yes, VFIO is part of OS but any assumption we made about other parts
> needs to be reflected accurately in the code.

I would say this is an independent bug which should be fixed simply as:

diff --git a/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c
index e1852e8..60d55c0 100644
--- a/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c
+++ b/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c
@@ -4948,7 +4948,7 @@ static bool intel_iommu_capable(enum iommu_cap cap)
        if (cap == IOMMU_CAP_CACHE_COHERENCY)
                return domain_update_iommu_snooping(NULL) == 1;
        if (cap == IOMMU_CAP_INTR_REMAP)
-               return irq_remapping_enabled == 1;
+               return irq_remapping_enabled == 1 && !disable_sourceid_checking;
 
        return false;
 }

I believe the intent of the IOMMU_CAP_INTR_REMAP flag is simply to
indicate interrupt isolation is provided through the IOMMU.  Nobody
cares about the interrupt remapping support beyond that.  If source-id
checking is disabled, the remainder of interrupt remapping is
irrelevant as far as this capability is concerned imho.  Thanks,

Alex

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-13 16:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-27 12:43 [PATCH 0/5] vfio-pci: Add support for mmapping MSI-X table Yongji Xie
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 1/5] PCI: Add a new PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP flag Yongji Xie
2016-05-24 20:55   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25  5:46     ` Yongji Xie
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 2/5] iommu: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP if IOMMU have capability of IRQ remapping Yongji Xie
2016-05-24 21:11   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25  5:54     ` Yongji Xie
     [not found]     ` <201605250554.u4P5sRqv014439@mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com>
2016-05-26  3:48       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 3/5] PCI: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP if MSI controller supports " Yongji Xie
2016-05-24 21:04   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25  5:48     ` Yongji Xie
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 4/5] pci-ioda: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP for IODA host bridge Yongji Xie
2016-05-06  6:34   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Allow to mmap MSI-X table if interrupt remapping is supported Yongji Xie
2016-05-03  5:34   ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-03  6:08     ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-03  6:22       ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-03  7:34         ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-05  9:36           ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05  9:54             ` David Laight
2016-05-05 11:42               ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-05 12:15                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 13:28                   ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-05 15:05                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-06  6:35                     ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-05-06 16:54                       ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-11  6:29                     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-11 15:53                       ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-12  1:19                         ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-12  2:20                           ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-12  4:53                             ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-12 17:47                               ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-13  2:33                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13  5:32                                   ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-13  6:50                                     ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13 16:42                                       ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2016-05-13  9:16                                     ` David Laight
2016-05-13  2:36                                 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 11:44             ` Yongji Xie

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