From: Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@redhat.com>
To: "Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Allow to mmap MSI-X table if interrupt remapping is supported
Date: Fri, 13 May 2016 10:42:36 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160513104236.438a800a@t450s.home> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AADFC41AFE54684AB9EE6CBC0274A5D15F854287@SHSMSX101.ccr.corp.intel.com>
On Fri, 13 May 2016 06:50:25 +0000
"Tian, Kevin" <kevin.tian@intel.com> wrote:
> > From: Alex Williamson [mailto:alex.williamson@redhat.com]
> > Sent: Friday, May 13, 2016 1:33 PM
> > > >
> > > > As argued previously in this thread, there's nothing special about a
> > > > DMA write to memory versus a DMA write to a special address that
> > > > triggers an MSI vector. If the device is DMA capable, which we assume
> > > > all are, it can be fooled into generating those DMA writes regardless
> > > > of whether we actively block access to the MSI-X vector table itself.
> > >
> > > But with DMA remapping above can be blocked.
> >
> > How? VT-d explicitly ignores DMA writes to 0xFEEx_xxxx, section 3.13:
> >
> > Write requests without PASID of DWORD length are treated as interrupt
> > requests. Interrupt requests are not subjected to DMA remapping[...]
> > Instead, remapping hardware can be enabled to subject such interrupt
> > requests to interrupt remapping.
>
> Thanks for catching this!
>
> >
> > > > MSI-X vector table access w/o interrupt remapping is to avoid obvious
> > > > collisions if it were to be programmed directly, it doesn't actually
> > > > prevent an identical DMA transaction from being generated by other
> > >
> > > Kernel can enable DMA remapping but disable IRQ remapping. In such
> > > case identical DMA transaction can be prevented.
> >
> > Not according to the VT-d spec as quoted above. If so, how?
>
> So my argument on this is wrong. sorry.
>
> >
> > > Anyway my point is simple. Let's ignore how Linux kernel implements
> > > IRQ remapping on x86 (which may change time to time), and just
> > > focus on architectural possibility. Non-x86 platform may implement
> > > IRQ remapping completely separate from device side, then checking
> > > availability of IRQ remapping is enough to decide whether mmap
> > > MSI-X table is safe. x86 with VT-d can be configured to a mode
> > > requiring host control of both MSI-X entry and IRQ remapping hardware
> > > (without source id check). In such case it's insufficient to make
> > > decision simply based on IRQ remapping availability. We need a way
> > > to query from IRQ remapping module whether it's actually safe to
> > > mmap MSI-X.
> >
> > We're going in circles here. This patch is attempting to remove
> > protection from the MSI-X vector table that is really nothing more than
> > security theater already. That "protection" only actually prevents
> > casual misuse of the API which is really only a problem when the
> > platform offers no form of interrupt isolation, such as VT-d with DMA
> > remapping but not interrupt remapping. Disabling source-id checking in
> > VT-d should be handled as the equivalent of disabling interrupt
> > remapping altogether as far as the IOMMU API is concerned. That's
> > a trivial gap that should be fixed. There is no such thing as a secure
>
> That is the main change I'm asking against original patch, which has:
>
> +static void pci_check_msi_remapping(struct pci_dev *pdev,
> + const struct iommu_ops *ops)
> +{
> + struct pci_bus *bus = pdev->bus;
> +
> + if (ops->capable(IOMMU_CAP_INTR_REMAP) &&
> + !(bus->bus_flags & PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP))
> + bus->bus_flags |= PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP;
> +}
> +
>
> Above flag should be cleared when source-id checking is disabled on x86.
> Yes, VFIO is part of OS but any assumption we made about other parts
> needs to be reflected accurately in the code.
I would say this is an independent bug which should be fixed simply as:
diff --git a/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c b/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c
index e1852e8..60d55c0 100644
--- a/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c
+++ b/drivers/iommu/intel-iommu.c
@@ -4948,7 +4948,7 @@ static bool intel_iommu_capable(enum iommu_cap cap)
if (cap == IOMMU_CAP_CACHE_COHERENCY)
return domain_update_iommu_snooping(NULL) == 1;
if (cap == IOMMU_CAP_INTR_REMAP)
- return irq_remapping_enabled == 1;
+ return irq_remapping_enabled == 1 && !disable_sourceid_checking;
return false;
}
I believe the intent of the IOMMU_CAP_INTR_REMAP flag is simply to
indicate interrupt isolation is provided through the IOMMU. Nobody
cares about the interrupt remapping support beyond that. If source-id
checking is disabled, the remainder of interrupt remapping is
irrelevant as far as this capability is concerned imho. Thanks,
Alex
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-05-13 16:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-27 12:43 [PATCH 0/5] vfio-pci: Add support for mmapping MSI-X table Yongji Xie
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 1/5] PCI: Add a new PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP flag Yongji Xie
2016-05-24 20:55 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25 5:46 ` Yongji Xie
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 2/5] iommu: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP if IOMMU have capability of IRQ remapping Yongji Xie
2016-05-24 21:11 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25 5:54 ` Yongji Xie
[not found] ` <201605250554.u4P5sRqv014439@mx0a-001b2d01.pphosted.com>
2016-05-26 3:48 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 3/5] PCI: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP if MSI controller supports " Yongji Xie
2016-05-24 21:04 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2016-05-25 5:48 ` Yongji Xie
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 4/5] pci-ioda: Set PCI_BUS_FLAGS_MSI_REMAP for IODA host bridge Yongji Xie
2016-05-06 6:34 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-04-27 12:43 ` [PATCH 5/5] vfio-pci: Allow to mmap MSI-X table if interrupt remapping is supported Yongji Xie
2016-05-03 5:34 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-03 6:08 ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-03 6:22 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-03 7:34 ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-05 9:36 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 9:54 ` David Laight
2016-05-05 11:42 ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-05 12:15 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 13:28 ` Yongji Xie
2016-05-05 15:05 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-06 6:35 ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2016-05-06 16:54 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-11 6:29 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-11 15:53 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-12 1:19 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-12 2:20 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-12 4:53 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-12 17:47 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-13 2:33 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13 5:32 ` Alex Williamson
2016-05-13 6:50 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-13 16:42 ` Alex Williamson [this message]
2016-05-13 9:16 ` David Laight
2016-05-13 2:36 ` Tian, Kevin
2016-05-05 11:44 ` Yongji Xie
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