From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Andy Lutomirski <luto@amacapital.net>
Cc: Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
X86 ML <x86@kernel.org>,
Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
"linux-s390@vger.kernel.org" <linux-s390@vger.kernel.org>,
live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>,
Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.com>,
Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>,
Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:55:31 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160623155531.i2kbnokosskimvmf@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CALCETrWs4TNWnVbT=3ksuLNZC_UoymSv8uQw7ynGtoO7-6gXjA@mail.gmail.com>
On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 05:09:11PM -0700, Andy Lutomirski wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 9:30 AM, Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Andy,
> >
> > So I got a chance to look at this some more. I'm thinking that to make
> > this feature more consistently useful, we shouldn't only annotate
> > pt_regs frames for calls to handlers; other calls should be annotated as
> > well: preempt_schedule_irq, CALL_enter_from_user_mode,
> > prepare_exit_to_usermode, SWAPGS, TRACE_IRQS_OFF, DISABLE_INTERRUPTS,
> > etc. That way, the unwinder will always be able to find pt_regs from an
> > interrupt/exception, even if starting from one of these other calls.
> >
> > But then, things get ugly. You have to either setup and tear down the
> > frame for every possible call, or do a higher-level setup/teardown
> > across multiple calls, which invalidates several assumptions in the
> > entry code about the location of pt_regs on the stack.
> >
>
> Here's yet another harebrained idea. Maybe it works better than my
> previous harebrained ideas :)
>
> Your patch is already creating a somewhat nonstandard stack frame:
>
> + movq %rbp, 0*8(%rsp)
> + movq $entry_frame_ret, 1*8(%rsp)
> + movq %rsp, %rbp
>
> It's kind of a normal stack frame, but rbp points at something odd,
> and to unwind it fully correctly, the unwinder needs to know about it.
>
> What if we made it even more special, along the lines of:
>
> leaq offset_to_ptregs(%rsp), %rbp
> xorq $-1, %rbp
>
> IOW, don't write anything to the stack at all, and just put a special
> value into RBP that says "the next frame is pt_regs at such-and-such
> address". Do this once on entry and make sure to restore RBP (from
> pt_regs) on exit. Now the unwinder can notice that RBP has the high
> bits clear *and* that the negation of it points to the stack, and it
> can figure out what's going on.
>
> What do you think? Am I nuts or could this work?
>
> It had better not have much risk of breaking things worse than they
> currently are, given that current kernel allow user code to stick any
> value it likes into the very last element of the RBP chain.
I think it's a good idea, and it could work... BUT it would break
external unwinders like gdb for the in-kernel entry case.
For interrupts and exceptions in kernel mode, rbp *is* valid. Sure, it
doesn't tell you the interrupted function, but it does tell you its
caller. A generic frame pointer unwinder skips the interrupted
function, but at least it keeps going. If we encoded rbp on entry, that
would break.
--
Josh
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-06-23 15:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 118+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-04-28 20:44 [RFC PATCH v2 00/18] livepatch: hybrid consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 01/18] x86/asm/head: clean up initial stack variable Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 02/18] x86/asm/head: use a common function for starting CPUs Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 03/18] x86/asm/head: standardize the bottom of the stack for idle tasks Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 18:46 ` Brian Gerst
2016-04-29 20:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 19:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 20:50 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 21:38 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 23:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-30 0:10 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 04/18] x86: move _stext marker before head code Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 05/18] sched: add task flag for preempt IRQ tracking Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 18:06 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 20:11 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 20:19 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 20:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 20:32 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 21:25 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 21:37 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 22:11 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-04-29 22:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-30 0:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 22:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-30 0:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-02 13:52 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-02 15:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-02 17:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-02 18:12 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-02 18:34 ` Ingo Molnar
2016-05-02 19:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-02 19:54 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-02 20:00 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-03 0:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-04 15:16 ` David Laight
2016-05-19 23:15 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-19 23:39 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-20 14:05 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-20 15:41 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-20 16:41 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-20 16:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-20 17:49 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-23 23:02 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-24 1:42 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-23 21:34 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-05-24 2:28 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-24 3:52 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-22 16:30 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-22 17:59 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-22 18:22 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-22 18:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-22 18:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-22 19:17 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 16:19 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-23 16:35 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 18:31 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-23 20:40 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-06-23 22:00 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 0:09 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-06-23 15:55 ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 06/18] x86: dump_trace() error handling Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 13:45 ` Minfei Huang
2016-04-29 14:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 07/18] stacktrace/x86: function for detecting reliable stack traces Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 08/18] livepatch: temporary stubs for klp_patch_pending() and klp_patch_task() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 09/18] livepatch/x86: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-29 18:08 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-04-29 20:18 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 10/18] livepatch/powerpc: " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-03 9:07 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-03 12:06 ` Miroslav Benes
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 11/18] livepatch/s390: reorganize TIF thread flag bits Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 12/18] livepatch/s390: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 13/18] livepatch: separate enabled and patched states Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-03 9:30 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-03 13:48 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 14/18] livepatch: remove unnecessary object loaded check Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 15/18] livepatch: move patching functions into patch.c Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-03 9:39 ` Petr Mladek
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 16/18] livepatch: store function sizes Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-04 8:42 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 15:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-05 9:41 ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-05 13:06 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 12:39 ` barriers: was: " Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 13:53 ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-04 16:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-04 14:12 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 17:25 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-05 11:21 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-09 15:42 ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-04 17:02 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-05 10:21 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 14:48 ` klp_task_patch: " Petr Mladek
2016-05-04 14:56 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-04 17:57 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-05 11:57 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-06 12:38 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-09 12:23 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-16 18:12 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-18 13:12 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-06 11:33 ` Petr Mladek
2016-05-06 12:44 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-09 9:41 ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-16 17:27 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-10 11:39 ` Miroslav Benes
2016-05-17 22:53 ` Jessica Yu
2016-05-18 8:16 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-18 16:51 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-05-18 20:22 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-23 9:42 ` David Laight
2016-05-23 18:44 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-05-24 15:06 ` David Laight
2016-05-24 22:45 ` Jiri Kosina
2016-06-06 13:54 ` [RFC PATCH v2 17/18] " Petr Mladek
2016-06-06 14:29 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-04-28 20:44 ` [RFC PATCH v2 18/18] livepatch: add /proc/<pid>/patch_state Josh Poimboeuf
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