From: Petko Manolov <petkan@mip-labs.com>
To: Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
kexec@lists.infradead.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-ima-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
linux-security-module@vger.kernel.org,
Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [Linux-ima-devel] [PATCH 1/7] ima: on soft reboot, restore the measurement list
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 17:32:30 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160810143230.GD4087@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1470833676.2881.183.camel@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
On 16-08-10 08:54:36, Mimi Zohar wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-08-10 at 19:52 +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> >
> > > Am Mittwoch, 10 August 2016, 13:41:08 schrieb Michael Ellerman:
> > >> Thiago Jung Bauermann <bauerman@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> > >> > Am Dienstag, 09 August 2016, 09:01:13 schrieb Mimi Zohar:
> > >> >> On Tue, 2016-08-09 at 20:59 +1000, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > >> >> > Mimi Zohar <zohar@linux.vnet.ibm.com> writes:
> > >> >> > > +/* Some details preceding the binary serialized measurement list
> > >> >> > > */
> > >> >> > > +struct ima_kexec_hdr {
> > >> >> > > + unsigned short version;
> > >> >> > > + unsigned long buffer_size;
> > >> >> > > + unsigned long count;
> > >> >> > > +} __packed;
> > >> >> > > +
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Am I understanding it correctly that this structure is passed between
> > >> >> > kernels?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Yes, the header prefixes the measurement list, which is being passed on
> > >> >> the same computer to the next kernel. Could the architecture (eg.
> > >> >> LE/BE) change between soft re-boots?
> > >> >
> > >> > Yes. I am able to boot a BE kernel from an LE kernel with my patches.
> > >> > Whether we want to support that or not is another question...
> > >>
> > >> Yes you must support that. BE -> LE and vice versa.
> > >
> > > I didn't test BE - LE yet, but will do.
> >
> > Thanks.
>
> Ok. There have been requests for making the binary_runtime_measurements
> architecture independent. As this was not a network facing interface,
> we left it in native format. With the kernel now consuming this data,
> it makes sense for the binary_runtime_measurements to be in an
> architecture independent format.
>
> Unfortunately, as the <securityfs>/ima/binary_runtime_measurements is
> not prefixed with any metadata, this change would need to be Kconfig
> based, but kexec would always use the architecture independent format.
>
> > >> You should also consider the possibility that the next kernel is not
> > >> Linux.
>
> Oh!
>
> > > If the next kernel is an ELF binary and it supports the kexec "calling
> > > convention", it should work too. What could possibly go wrong? I can try
> > > FreeBSD (I suppose it's an ELF kernel) and see what happens.
> >
> > At least for old style kexec (not sys_kexec_load()) I don't think it
> > even needs to be an ELF binary.
> >
> > I think there are folks working on FreeBSD (or $?BSD), so I think the
> > basic kexec part works.
> >
> > There's nothing (yet) that wants to use this measurement list obviously,
> > but it should be designed such that it could be used by an unknown
> > future kernel that knows the ABI.
> >
> > So given what you have above, you'd use something like:
> >
> > struct ima_kexec_hdr {
> > u16 version;
> > u16 _reserved0;
> > u32 _reserved1;
> > u64 buffer_size;
> > u64 count;
> > };
> >
> > cheers
>
> Thanks, I'll make this change.
I would suggest:
struct ima_kexec_hdr {
u64 buffer_size;
u64 count;
u16 version;
};
and let the compiler add the proper padding, depending on the architecture. On
32bit machine we'll have 4 bytes smaller allocations (compared to 64bit) while
retaining the same functionality.
cheers,
Petko
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-08-10 14:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-08-04 12:24 [PATCH 0/7] ima: carry the measurement list across kexec Mimi Zohar
2016-08-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/7] ima: on soft reboot, restore the measurement list Mimi Zohar
2016-08-05 8:44 ` Petko Manolov
2016-08-05 13:34 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-05 15:56 ` Petko Manolov
2016-08-09 10:59 ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-09 13:01 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-09 13:19 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-08-09 13:35 ` David Laight
2016-08-09 14:02 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-09 13:55 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-09 14:06 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-09 23:13 ` Samuel Mendoza-Jonas
2016-08-10 3:41 ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-10 5:05 ` Thiago Jung Bauermann
2016-08-10 9:52 ` Michael Ellerman
2016-08-10 12:54 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-10 14:32 ` Petko Manolov [this message]
2016-08-10 14:40 ` [Linux-ima-devel] " David Laight
2016-08-10 15:48 ` Petko Manolov
2016-08-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 2/7] ima: permit duplicate measurement list entries Mimi Zohar
2016-08-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 3/7] ima: maintain memory size needed for serializing the measurement list Mimi Zohar
2016-08-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 4/7] ima: serialize the binary_runtime_measurements Mimi Zohar
2016-08-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 5/7] ima: on soft reboot, save the measurement list Mimi Zohar
2016-08-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 6/7] ima: store the builtin/custom template definitions in a list Mimi Zohar
2016-08-04 12:24 ` [PATCH 7/7] ima: support restoring multiple template formats Mimi Zohar
2016-08-09 5:19 ` [PATCH 0/7] ima: carry the measurement list across kexec Balbir Singh
2016-08-09 12:36 ` Mimi Zohar
2016-08-11 7:38 ` Balbir Singh
2016-08-11 11:25 ` Mimi Zohar
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