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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: Jessica Yu <jeyu@redhat.com>, Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>,
	Petr Mladek <pmladek@suse.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org,
	Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>,
	Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 13/15] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency model
Date: Fri, 6 Jan 2017 15:01:20 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170106210120.6xdwnakjjfdoe7ra@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1701041423100.6852@pobox.suse.cz>

On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 02:44:47PM +0100, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> 
> > +void klp_start_transition(void)
> > +{
> > +	struct task_struct *g, *task;
> > +	unsigned int cpu;
> > +
> > +	WARN_ON_ONCE(klp_target_state == KLP_UNDEFINED);
> > +
> > +	pr_notice("'%s': %s...\n", klp_transition_patch->mod->name,
> > +		  klp_target_state == KLP_PATCHED ? "patching" : "unpatching");
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * If the patch can be applied or reverted immediately, skip the
> > +	 * per-task transitions.
> > +	 */
> > +	if (klp_transition_patch->immediate)
> > +		return;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Mark all normal tasks as needing a patch state update.  As they pass
> > +	 * through the syscall barrier they'll switch over to the target state
> > +	 * (unless we switch them in klp_try_complete_transition() first).
> > +	 */
> > +	read_lock(&tasklist_lock);
> > +	for_each_process_thread(g, task)
> > +		set_tsk_thread_flag(task, TIF_PATCH_PENDING);
> > +	read_unlock(&tasklist_lock);
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * Ditto for the idle "swapper" tasks, though they never cross the
> > +	 * syscall barrier.  Instead they switch over in cpu_idle_loop().
> 
> ...or we switch them in klp_try_complete_transition() first by looking at 
> their stacks, right? I would add it to the comment.

Yeah, I guess the "ditto" was intended to include the "unless we switch
them in klp_try_complete_transition() first" statement from the previous
comment.  I'll try to make it clearer.

> > +	 */
> > +	get_online_cpus();
> > +	for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
> > +		set_tsk_thread_flag(idle_task(cpu), TIF_PATCH_PENDING);
> > +	put_online_cpus();
> > +}
> 
> [...]
> 
> > --- a/kernel/sched/idle.c
> > +++ b/kernel/sched/idle.c
> > @@ -9,6 +9,7 @@
> >  #include <linux/mm.h>
> >  #include <linux/stackprotector.h>
> >  #include <linux/suspend.h>
> > +#include <linux/livepatch.h>
> >  
> >  #include <asm/tlb.h>
> >  
> > @@ -264,6 +265,9 @@ static void do_idle(void)
> >  
> >  	sched_ttwu_pending();
> >  	schedule_preempt_disabled();
> > +
> > +	if (unlikely(klp_patch_pending(current)))
> > +		klp_update_patch_state(current);
> >  }
> 
> I think that (theoretically) this is not sufficient, if we patch a 
> function present on an idle task's stack and one of the two following 
> scenarios happen.

Agreed, though I'd argue that these are rare edge cases which can
probably be refined later, outside the scope of this patch set.

> 1. there is nothing to schedule on a cpu and an idle task does not leave a 
> loop in do_idle() for some time. It may be a nonsense practically and if 
> it is not we could solve with schedule_on_each_cpu() on an empty stub 
> somewhere in our code.

This might only be a theoretical issue, as it only happens when patching
one of the idle functions themselves.

If we decided that this were a real world problem, we could use
something like schedule_on_each_cpu() to flush them out as you
suggested.  Or it could even be done from user space by briefly running
a CPU-intensive program on the affected CPUs.

> 2. there is a cpu-bound process running on one of the cpus. No chance of 
> going to do_idle() there at all and the idle task would block the 
> patching.

To clarify I think this would only be an issue when trying to patch idle
code or schedule()/__schedule().

> We ran into it in kGraft and I tried to solve it with this new 
> hunk in pick_next_task()...
> 
> +       /*
> +        * Patching is in progress, schedule an idle task to migrate it
> +        */
> +       if (kgr_in_progress_branch()) {
> +               if (!test_bit(0, kgr_immutable) &&
> +                   klp_kgraft_task_in_progress(rq->idle)) {
> +                       p = idle_sched_class.pick_next_task(rq, prev);
> +
> +                       return p;
> +               }
> +       }
> 
> (kgr_in_progress_branch() is a static key basically. kgr_immutable flag 
> solves something we don't have a problem with in upstream livepatch thanks 
> to a combination of task->patch_state and klp_func->transition. 
> klp_kgraft_task_in_progress() checks the livepatching TIF of a task.)
> 
> It is not tested properly and it is a hack as hell so take it as that. 
> Also note that the problem in kGraft is more serious as we don't have a 
> stack checking there. So any livepatch could cause the issue easily.
> 
> I can imagine even crazier solutions but nothing nice and pretty (which is 
> probably impossible because the whole idea to deliberately schedule an 
> idle task is not nice and pretty).

Yeah, that looks hairy...

Since this is such a specialized case (patching the scheduler in an idle
task while CPU-intensive tasks are running) this might also be more
reasonably accomplished from user space by briefly SIGSTOPing the CPU
hog.

> Otherwise the patch looks good to me. I don't understand how Petr found 
> those races there.

Agreed, kudos to Petr :-)

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-06 21:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 78+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-12-08 18:08 [PATCH v3 00/15] livepatch: hybrid consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 01/15] stacktrace/x86: add function for detecting reliable stack traces Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-16 13:07   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-16 22:09     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-19 16:25   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-12-19 17:25     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-19 18:23       ` Miroslav Benes
2016-12-20  9:39       ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-20 21:21         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 02/15] x86/entry: define _TIF_ALLWORK_MASK flags explicitly Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-16 14:17   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-16 22:13     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-19 16:39   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-10  8:49   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 03/15] livepatch: temporary stubs for klp_patch_pending() and klp_update_patch_state() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-16 14:41   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-16 22:15     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 04/15] livepatch/x86: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-08 18:27   ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-12-16 15:39   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-21 13:54   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-11  7:06   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 05/15] livepatch/powerpc: " Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-16 16:00   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-21 14:30   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-10  8:29   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 06/15] livepatch/s390: reorganize TIF thread flag bits Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-21 15:29   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 07/15] livepatch/s390: add TIF_PATCH_PENDING thread flag Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 08/15] livepatch: separate enabled and patched states Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-16 16:21   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-23 12:54   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-10  9:10   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 09/15] livepatch: remove unnecessary object loaded check Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-16 16:26   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-23 12:58   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-10  9:14   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 10/15] livepatch: move patching functions into patch.c Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-16 16:49   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-23 13:06   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-10  9:15   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 11/15] livepatch: use kstrtobool() in enabled_store() Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-16 16:55   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-16 22:19     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-23 13:13       ` Miroslav Benes
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 12/15] livepatch: store function sizes Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-19 13:10   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-23 13:40   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-11 10:09   ` Kamalesh Babulal
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 13/15] livepatch: change to a per-task consistency model Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-20 17:32   ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-21 21:25     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-22 14:34       ` Petr Mladek
2016-12-22 18:31         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-10 13:00           ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-10 20:46             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-11 15:18               ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-11 15:26                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-23  9:24       ` Miroslav Benes
2016-12-23 10:18         ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-06 20:07           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-01-10 10:40             ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-04 13:44   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-06 21:01     ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2017-01-10 10:45       ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-05  9:34   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-06 21:04     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 14/15] livepatch: add /proc/<pid>/patch_state Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-21 11:20   ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-04 14:50   ` Miroslav Benes
2016-12-08 18:08 ` [PATCH v3 15/15] livepatch: allow removal of a disabled patch Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-21 14:44   ` Petr Mladek
2017-01-04 14:57   ` Miroslav Benes
2017-01-06 21:04     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-10  5:46 ` [PATCH v3 00/15] livepatch: hybrid consistency model Balbir Singh
2016-12-10 17:17   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2016-12-11  2:08     ` Balbir Singh
2016-12-12 14:04       ` Josh Poimboeuf

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