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From: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>
Cc: dzickus@redhat.com, sfr@canb.auug.org.au, linuxarm@huawei.com,
	Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
	abdhalee@linux.vnet.ibm.com, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, tglx@linutronix.de
Subject: Re: RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this?
Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2017 08:04:11 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170731150411.GA3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170731120847.00003d5c@huawei.com>

On Mon, Jul 31, 2017 at 12:08:47PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 12:03:50 -0700
> "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 06:27:05PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 09:55:29 -0700
> > > "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Fri, Jul 28, 2017 at 02:24:03PM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:  
> > > > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2017 08:44:11 +0100
> > > > > Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> wrote:    
> > > > 
> > > > [ . . . ]
> > > >   
> > > > > Ok.  Some info.  I disabled a few driver (usb and SAS) in the interest of having
> > > > > fewer timer events.  Issue became much easier to trigger (on some runs before
> > > > > I could get tracing up and running)
> > > > >e
> > > > > So logs are large enough that pastebin doesn't like them - please shoet if    
> > > > >>e another timer period is of interest.    
> > > > > 
> > > > > https://pastebin.com/iUZDfQGM for the timer trace.
> > > > > https://pastebin.com/3w1F7amH for dmesg.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > The relevant timeout on the RCU stall detector was 8 seconds.  Event is
> > > > > detected around 835.
> > > > > 
> > > > > It's a lot of logs, so I haven't identified a smoking gun yet but there
> > > > > may well be one in there.    
> > > > 
> > > > The dmesg says:
> > > > 
> > > > rcu_preempt kthread starved for 2508 jiffies! g112 c111 f0x0 RCU_GP_WAIT_FQS(3) ->state=0x1
> > > > 
> > > > So I look for "rcu_preempt" timer events and find these:
> > > > 
> > > > rcu_preempt-9     [019] ....   827.579114: timer_init: timer=ffff8017d5fc7da0
> > > > rcu_preempt-9     [019] d..1   827.579115: timer_start: timer=ffff8017d5fc7da0 function=process_timeout 
> > > > 
> > > > Next look for "ffff8017d5fc7da0" and I don't find anything else.  
> > > It does show up off the bottom of what would fit in pastebin...
> > > 
> > >      rcu_preempt-9     [001] d..1   837.681077: timer_cancel: timer=ffff8017d5fc7da0
> > >      rcu_preempt-9     [001] ....   837.681086: timer_init: timer=ffff8017d5fc7da0
> > >      rcu_preempt-9     [001] d..1   837.681087: timer_start: timer=ffff8017d5fc7da0 function=process_timeout expires=4295101298 [timeout=1] cpu=1 idx=0 flags=  
> > 
> > Odd.  I would expect an expiration...  And ten seconds is way longer
> > than the requested one jiffy!
> > 
> > > > The timeout was one jiffy, and more than a second later, no expiration.
> > > > Is it possible that this event was lost?  I am not seeing any sign of
> > > > this is the trace.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't see any sign of CPU hotplug (and I test with lots of that in
> > > > any case).
> > > > 
> > > > The last time we saw something like this it was a timer HW/driver problem,
> > > > but it is a bit hard to imagine such a problem affecting both ARM64
> > > > and SPARC.  ;-)  
> > > Could be different issues, both of which were hidden by that lockup detector.
> > > 
> > > There is an errata work around for the timers on this particular board.
> > > I'm only vaguely aware of it, so may be unconnected.
> > > 
> > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/drivers/clocksource/arm_arch_timer.c?h=v4.13-rc2&id=bb42ca47401010fc02901b5e8f79e40a26f208cb
> > > 
> > > Seems unlikely though! + we've not yet seen it on the other chips that
> > > errata effects (not that that means much).  
> > 
> > If you can reproduce quickly, might be worth trying anyway...
> > 
> > 							Thanx, Paul
> Errata fix is running already and was for all those tests.

I was afraid of that...  ;-)

> I'll have a dig into the timers today and see where I get to.

Look forward to seeing what you find!

							Thanx, Paul

> Jonathan
> > 
> > > Jonathan
> > >   
> > > > 
> > > > Thomas, any debugging suggestions?
> > > > 
> > > > 							Thanx, Paul
> > > >   
> > >   
> > 
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-31 15:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20170725193039.00007c80@huawei.com>
2017-07-25 12:26 ` RCU lockup issues when CONFIG_SOFTLOCKUP_DETECTOR=n - any one else seeing this? Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-25 13:46   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 14:42     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 15:12       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-25 16:52         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-25 21:10           ` David Miller
2017-07-26  3:55             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  4:02               ` David Miller
2017-07-26  4:12                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  8:16                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26  9:32                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:28                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 12:49                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 14:14                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 14:23                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:33                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 15:49                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 16:54                                 ` David Miller
2017-07-26 17:13                                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27  7:41                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 17:50                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:36                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 22:45                                       ` David Miller
2017-07-26 23:15                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26 23:22                                           ` David Miller
2017-07-27  1:42                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27  4:34                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-07-27 12:49                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-27 13:49                                                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:39                                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-27 16:52                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28  7:44                                                         ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 12:54                                                           ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 13:13                                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 14:55                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 18:41                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-28 19:09                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-30 13:37                                                                   ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-30 16:59                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-29  1:20                                                                 ` Boqun Feng
2017-07-28 18:42                                                             ` David Miller
2017-07-28 13:08                                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 13:24                                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
     [not found]                                                             ` <20170728165529.GF3730@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
2017-07-28 17:27                                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-28 19:03                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 11:08                                                                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 15:04                                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney [this message]
2017-07-31 15:27                                                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 18:46                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-02 16:25                                                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-15 15:47                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16  1:24                                                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-16 12:43                                                                               ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-16 12:56                                                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-16 15:31                                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-16 16:27                                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-17 13:55                                                                                     ` Michael Ellerman
2017-08-20  4:45                                                                                     ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20  5:01                                                                                       ` David Miller
2017-08-20  5:04                                                                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 13:00                                                                                       ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-20 18:35                                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-20 21:14                                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-21  0:52                                                                                             ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21  6:06                                                                                               ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 10:18                                                                                                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 14:19                                                                                                   ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-08-21 15:02                                                                                                     ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-21 20:55                                                                                                     ` David Miller
2017-08-22  7:49                                                                                                       ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-22  8:51                                                                                                         ` Abdul Haleem
2017-08-22 15:26                                                                                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-09-06 12:28                                                                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-08-22  0:38                                                                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-31 11:09                                           ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-31 11:55                                             ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-08-01 10:53                                               ` Jonathan Cameron
2017-07-26 16:48                           ` David Miller
2017-07-26  3:53           ` Paul E. McKenney
2017-07-26  7:51             ` Jonathan Cameron

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