From: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>
To: David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM>
Cc: 'Matthew Wilcox' <willy@infradead.org>,
Florian Weimer <fweimer@redhat.com>,
"linux-arch@vger.kernel.org" <linux-arch@vger.kernel.org>,
Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
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Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
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"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
"linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org" <linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org>,
"Thomas Gleixner" <tglx@linutronix.de>,
"Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>
Subject: Re: POWER: Unexpected fault when writing to brk-allocated memory
Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:30:50 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171111213050.34a4f585@roar.ozlabs.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <063D6719AE5E284EB5DD2968C1650D6DD00B84EF@AcuExch.aculab.com>
On Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:08:35 +0000
David Laight <David.Laight@ACULAB.COM> wrote:
> From: Matthew Wilcox
> > Sent: 09 November 2017 19:44
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 04:15:26AM +1100, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> > > So these semantics are what we're going with? Anything that does mmap() is
> > > guaranteed of getting a 47-bit pointer and it can use the top 17 bits for
> > > itself? Is intended to be cross-platform or just x86 and power specific?
> >
> > It is x86 and powerpc specific. The arm64 people have apparently stumbled
> > across apps that expect to be able to use bit 48 for their own purposes.
> > And their address space is 48 bit by default. Oops.
>
> (Do you mean 49bit?)
I think he meant bit 47, which makes sense because they were probably
ported from x86-64 with 47 bit address. That seems to be why x86-64
5-level and powerpc decided to limit to a 47 bit address space by
default.
>
> Aren't such apps just doomed to be broken?
Well they're not portable but they are not broken if virtual address
is limited.
>
> ISTR there is something on (IIRC) sparc64 that does a 'match'
> on the high address bits to make it much harder to overrun
> one area into another.
I'm not sure about that but I think the problem would be the app
masking out bits from the pointer for its own use before ever
dereferencing it.
Thanks,
Nick
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-11-11 10:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-11-03 17:05 POWER: Unexpected fault when writing to brk-allocated memory Florian Weimer
2017-11-05 12:18 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-05 12:35 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-05 12:54 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-05 14:50 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-06 6:18 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-11-06 6:47 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-06 8:11 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-06 8:25 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-06 8:30 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-11-06 8:32 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-06 10:20 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 5:07 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 8:15 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 9:24 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 11:16 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-07 11:15 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-07 11:26 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 11:44 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-07 13:05 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 13:16 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-08 6:08 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-08 6:18 ` Florian Weimer
2017-11-07 11:56 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 12:28 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-07 13:33 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-07 13:45 ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-11-07 14:01 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-09 17:15 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-09 19:44 ` Matthew Wilcox
2017-11-10 1:26 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-11-10 12:08 ` David Laight
2017-11-11 10:30 ` Nicholas Piggin [this message]
2017-11-08 4:56 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-11-08 8:30 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-11-06 8:10 ` Florian Weimer
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