From: Torsten Duwe <duwe@lst.de>
To: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
live-patching@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] On ppc64le we HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2017 12:28:33 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171219112833.GA8758@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171218185622.rgoyy5doyh3gyqh5@treble>
On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:56:22PM -0600, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 03:33:34PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> > On Sun, 17 Dec 2017 20:58:54 -0600
> > Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Dec 15, 2017 at 07:40:09PM +1000, Nicholas Piggin wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 08:05:01 -0600
> > > > Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > What about leaf functions? If a leaf function doesn't establish a stack
> > > > > frame, and it has inline asm which contains a blr to another function,
> > > > > this ABI is broken.
> > >
> > > Oops, I meant to say "bl" instead of "blr".
You need to save LR, one way or the other. If gcc thinks it's a leaf function and
does not do it, nor does your asm code, you'll return in an endless loop => bug.
> > > > > Also, even for non-leaf functions, is it possible for GCC to insert the
> > > > > inline asm before it sets up the stack frame? (This is an occasional
> > > > > problem on x86.)
> > > >
> > > > Inline asm must not have control transfer out of the statement unless
> > > > it is asm goto.
> > >
> > > Can inline asm have calls to other functions?
> >
> > I don't believe so.
>
> It's allowed on x86, I don't see why it wouldn't be allowed on powerpc.
> As you mentioned, GCC doesn't pay attention to what's inside asm("").
>
> > > > > Also, what about hand-coded asm?
> > > >
> > > > Should follow the same rules if it uses the stack.
> > >
> > > How is that enforced?
> >
> > It's not, AFAIK. Gcc doesn't understand what's inside asm("").
>
> Here I was talking about .S files.
asm("") or .S ... the ABI spec is clear, and it's quite easy to follow. You
need a place to save LR before you call another function, and STDU is so
convenient to create a stack frame with a single instruction.
My impression is one would have to be very determined to break the ABI
deliberately.
> > > > > In addition to fixing the above issues, the unwinder also needs to
> > > > > detect interrupts (i.e., preemption) and page faults on the stack of a
> > > > > blocked task. If a function were preempted before it created a stack
> > > > > frame, or if a leaf function blocked on a page fault, the stack trace
> > > > > will skip the function's caller, so such a trace will need to be
> > > > > reported to livepatch as unreliable.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think there is much problem there for powerpc. Stack frame
> > > > creation and function call with return pointer are each atomic.
> > >
> > > What if the function is interrupted before it creates the stack frame?
There should be a pt_regs that shows exactly this situation, see below.
> > Then there will be no stack frame, but you still get the caller address
> > because it's saved in LR register as part of the function call. Then
> > you get the caller's caller in its stack frame.
>
> Ok. So what about the interrupted function itself? Looking at the
> powerpc version of save_context_stack(), it doesn't do anything special
> for exception frames like checking regs->nip.
>
> Though it looks like that should be possible since show_stack() has a
> way to identify exception frames.
IIRC x86 errors out if a task was interrupted in kernel context. PPC
save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable() could do the same.
Would that be sufficient?
Torsten
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-12-19 11:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-10-04 15:25 [PATCH v2] kernel/module_64.c: Add REL24 relocation support of livepatch symbols Kamalesh Babulal
2017-10-05 6:56 ` Naveen N . Rao
2017-10-05 12:43 ` Torsten Duwe
2017-10-06 5:43 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2017-10-11 9:44 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2017-10-06 5:57 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2017-10-17 14:47 ` Torsten Duwe
2017-10-18 6:17 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2017-10-20 12:07 ` Torsten Duwe
2017-10-21 0:59 ` Balbir Singh
2017-10-23 8:19 ` Kamalesh Babulal
2017-12-12 11:39 ` [PATCH] On ppc64le we HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE Torsten Duwe
2017-12-12 12:12 ` Miroslav Benes
2017-12-12 13:02 ` Torsten Duwe
2018-02-27 16:09 ` [PATCH 2/2] ppc64le save_stack_trace_tsk_reliable (Was: HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE) Torsten Duwe
2018-03-08 21:43 ` Balbir Singh
2018-03-09 15:54 ` Torsten Duwe
2017-12-12 14:05 ` [PATCH] On ppc64le we HAVE_RELIABLE_STACKTRACE Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-15 9:40 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-12-18 2:58 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-18 3:39 ` Balbir Singh
2017-12-18 4:01 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-18 5:33 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-12-18 18:56 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-19 2:46 ` Nicholas Piggin
2017-12-19 11:28 ` Torsten Duwe [this message]
2017-12-19 21:46 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2017-12-21 12:10 ` Michael Ellerman
2017-12-23 4:00 ` Josh Poimboeuf
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