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From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
To: Anshuman Khandual <khandual@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	robh@kernel.org, aik@ozlabs.ru, jasowang@redhat.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, joe@perches.com,
	david@gibson.dropbear.id.au, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	elfring@users.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [RFC] virtio: Use DMA MAP API for devices without an IOMMU
Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2018 00:16:34 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180406071634.GA31108@infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70cb433f-a8f7-5199-3c96-a760c7624804@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Fri, Apr 06, 2018 at 08:23:10AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> On 04/06/2018 02:48 AM, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > On Thu, 2018-04-05 at 21:34 +0300, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> >>> In this specific case, because that would make qemu expect an iommu,
> >>> and there isn't one.
> >>
> >>
> >> I think that you can set iommu_platform in qemu without an iommu.
> > 
> > No I mean the platform has one but it's not desirable for it to be used
> > due to the performance hit.
> 
> Also the only requirement is to bounce the I/O buffers through SWIOTLB
> implemented as DMA API which the virtio core understands. There is no
> need for an IOMMU to be involved for the device representation in this
> case IMHO.

This whole virtio translation issue is a mess.  I think we need to
switch it to the dma API, and then quirk the legacy case to always
use the direct mapping inside the dma API.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-06  7:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-05 10:56 [RFC] virtio: Use DMA MAP API for devices without an IOMMU Anshuman Khandual
2018-04-05 11:14 ` Balbir Singh
2018-04-05 11:28   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-04-05 14:39 ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-04-05 14:54   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-05 15:09     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-04-05 18:34       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-05 21:18         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-04-06  2:53           ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-04-06  7:16             ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-04-06  8:37               ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-04-15 12:11                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-04-18  3:17                   ` Anshuman Khandual
2018-04-18 16:20                     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-01 16:34                       ` Ram Pai

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