From: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>, Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>,
Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>,
Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>,
Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>,
Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>,
Robin Murphy <robin.murphy@arm.com>,
linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org,
linux-ia64@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 01/20] kernel/dma/direct: take DMA offset into account in dma_direct_supported
Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 08:53:59 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180822065359.GB19284@lst.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <74068e4d2135ecad8645048ed97b1114891ccace.camel@kernel.crashing.org>
On Thu, Aug 09, 2018 at 09:44:18AM +1000, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> We do have the occasional device with things like 31-bit DMA
> limitation. We know they happens to work because those systems
> can't have enough memory to be a problem. This is why our current
> DMA direct ops in powerpc just unconditionally return true on ppc32.
>
> The test against a full 32-bit mask here will break them I think.
>
> Thing is, I'm not sure I still have access to one of these things
> to test, I'll have to dig (from memory things like b43 wifi).
Yeah, the other platforms that support these devices support ZONE_DMA
to reliably handle these devices. But there is two other ways the
current code would actually handle these fine despite the dma_direct
checks:
1) if the device only has physical addresses up to 31-bit anyway
2) by trying again to find a lower address. But this only works
for coherent allocations and not streaming maps (unless we have
swiotlb with a buffer below 31-bits).
It seems powerpc can have ZONE_DMA, though and we will cover these
devices just fine. If it didn't have that the current powerpc
code would not work either.
> - What is this trying to achieve ?
>
> /*
> * Various PCI/PCIe bridges have broken support for > 32bit DMA even
> * if the device itself might support it.
> */
> if (dev->dma_32bit_limit && mask > phys_to_dma(dev, DMA_BIT_MASK(32)))
> return 0;
>
> IE, if the device has a 32-bit limit, we fail an attempt at checking
> if a >32-bit mask works ? That doesn't quite seem to be the right thing
> to do... Shouldn't this be in dma_set_mask() and just clamp the mask down ?
>
> IE, dma_set_mask() is what a driver uses to establish the device capability,
> so it makes sense tot have dma_32bit_limit just reduce that capability, not
> fail because the device can do more than what the bridge can....
If your PCI bridge / PCIe root port doesn't support dma to addresses
larger than 32-bit the device capabilities above that don't matter, it
just won't work. We have this case at least for some old VIA x86 chipsets
and some relatively modern Xilinx FPGAs with PCIe.
> - How is that file supposed to work on 64-bit platforms ? From what I can
> tell, dma_supported() will unconditionally return true if the mask is
> 32-bit or larger (appart from the above issue). This doesn't look right,
> the mask needs to be compared to the max memory address. There are a bunch
> of devices out there with masks anywhere bettween 40 and 64 bits, and
> some of these will not work "out of the box" if the offseted top
> of memory is beyond the mask limit. Or am I missing something ?
Your are not missing anything except for the history of this code.
Your observation is right, but there always has been the implicit
assumption that architectures with more than 4GB of physical address
space must either support and iommu or swiotlb and use that. It's
never been document anywhere, but I'm working on integrating all
this code to make more sense.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-08-22 6:52 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-07-30 16:38 use generic DMA mapping code in powerpc Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 01/20] kernel/dma/direct: take DMA offset into account in dma_direct_supported Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 23:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22 6:53 ` Christoph Hellwig [this message]
2018-08-22 23:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23 5:24 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-23 5:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 02/20] kernel/dma/direct: refine dma_direct_alloc zone selection Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 23:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22 6:58 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-23 0:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-23 5:26 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 03/20] dma-mapping: make the get_required_mask method available unconditionally Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 04/20] ia64: remove get_required_mask implementation Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 05/20] swiotlb: allow the architecture to provide a get_required_mask hook Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-27 16:06 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 06/20] dma-noncoherent: add an optional arch hook for ->get_required_mask Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 07/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused ARCH_HAS_DMA_MMAP_COHERENT define Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-08 23:56 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 08/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused dma_nommu_ops export Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-31 12:16 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:01 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22 6:45 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-22 23:50 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 09/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused ISA_DMA_THRESHOLD export Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:14 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 10/20] powerpc/dma-noncoherent: don't disable irqs over kmap_atomic Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:27 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22 7:02 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-22 23:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 11/20] powerpc/dma: split the two __dma_alloc_coherent implementations Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:40 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 12/20] powerpc/dma: use phys_to_dma instead of get_dma_offset Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:43 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 13/20] powerpc/dma: remove get_dma_offset Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 14/20] powerpc/dma: replace dma_nommu_dma_supported with dma_direct_supported Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 15/20] powerpc/dma: remove the unused unmap_page and unmap_sg methods Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:49 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 16/20] powerpc/dma: use dma_direct_{alloc,free} Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-27 8:51 ` Scott Wood
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 17/20] powerpc/dma-swiotlb: use generic swiotlb_dma_ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 0:54 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-09 1:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-08-22 7:04 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 18/20] powerpc/dma-noncoherent: use generic dma_noncoherent_ops Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 1:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 19/20] powerpc/dma: use the generic dma-direct map_page and map_sg routines Christoph Hellwig
2018-07-30 16:38 ` [PATCH 20/20] powerpc/dma: remove dma_nommu_mmap_coherent Christoph Hellwig
2018-08-09 1:05 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
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