linux-next: build warnings from Linus' tree

linux-next: build warnings from Linus' tree

[Stephen Rothwell]

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 548 bytes --]

Hi all,

Building Linus' tree, today's linux-next build (powerpc ppc64_defconfig)
produced these warning:

ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.

This may just be because I have started building using the native Debian
gcc for the powerpc builds ...

-- 
Cheers,
Stephen Rothwell

[-- Attachment #2: OpenPGP digital signature --]
[-- Type: application/pgp-signature, Size: 488 bytes --]

Re: linux-next: build warnings from Linus' tree

[Joel Stanley]

Hello Alan,

On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 at 07:44, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:

> Building Linus' tree, today's linux-next build (powerpc ppc64_defconfig)
> produced these warning:
>
> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
>
> This may just be because I have started building using the native Debian
> gcc for the powerpc builds ...

Do you know why we started creating these?

If it's intentional, should we be putting including them in the same
way as .hash sections?

https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/powerpc/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S#n282

  .hash : AT(ADDR(.hash) - LOAD_OFFSET) { *(.hash) }

Cheers,

Joel

Re: linux-next: build warnings from Linus' tree

[Michael Ellerman]

Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au> writes:
> Hello Alan,
>
> On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 at 07:44, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
>
>> Building Linus' tree, today's linux-next build (powerpc ppc64_defconfig)
>> produced these warning:
>>
>> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
>> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
>> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
>>
>> This may just be because I have started building using the native Debian
>> gcc for the powerpc builds ...
>
> Do you know why we started creating these?

It's controlled by the ld option --hash-style, which AFAICS still
defaults to sysv (generating .hash).

But it seems gcc can be configured to have a different default, and at
least my native ppc64le toolchains are passing gnu, eg:

 /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/collect2 -plugin
 /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/liblto_plugin.so
 -plugin-opt=/usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/lto-wrapper
 -plugin-opt=-fresolution=/tmp/ccw1U2fF.res
 -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc_s
 -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc
 -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc_s --sysroot=/ --build-id --eh-frame-hdr
 -V -shared -m elf64lppc
 --hash-style=gnu
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So that's presumably why we're seeing it, some GCCs are configured to
use it.

> If it's intentional, should we be putting including them in the same
> way as .hash sections?
>
> https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/powerpc/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S#n282
>
>   .hash : AT(ADDR(.hash) - LOAD_OFFSET) { *(.hash) }

That would presumably work.

My question though is do we even need it?

From what I can see for it to be useful you need the section as well as
an entry in the dynamic section pointing at it, and we don't have a
dynamic section at all:

  $ readelf -S vmlinux | grep gnu.hash
    [ 4] .gnu.hash         GNU_HASH         c000000000dbbdb0  00dcbdb0
  $ readelf -d vmlinux
  
  There is no dynamic section in this file.

Compare to the vdso:

$ readelf -d arch/powerpc/kernel/vdso64/vdso64.so

Dynamic section at offset 0x868 contains 12 entries:
  Tag        Type                         Name/Value
 0x000000000000000e (SONAME)             Library soname: [linux-vdso64.so.1]
 0x0000000000000004 (HASH)               0x120
 0x000000006ffffef5 (GNU_HASH)           0x170
 0x0000000000000005 (STRTAB)             0x320
 0x0000000000000006 (SYMTAB)             0x1d0
 0x000000000000000a (STRSZ)              269 (bytes)
 0x000000000000000b (SYMENT)             24 (bytes)
 0x0000000070000003 (PPC64_OPT)          0x0
 0x000000006ffffffc (VERDEF)             0x450
 0x000000006ffffffd (VERDEFNUM)          2
 0x000000006ffffff0 (VERSYM)             0x42e
 0x0000000000000000 (NULL)               0x0


So can't we just discard .gnu.hash? And in fact do we need .hash either?

Actually arm64 discards the latter, and parisc discards both.

Would still be good to hear from Alan or someone else who knows anything
about toolchain stuff, ie. not me :)

cheers

Re: linux-next: build warnings from Linus' tree

[Alan Modra]

On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 09:20:23PM +1100, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au> writes:
> > Hello Alan,
> >
> > On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 at 07:44, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
> >
> >> Building Linus' tree, today's linux-next build (powerpc ppc64_defconfig)
> >> produced these warning:
> >>
> >> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
> >> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
> >> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
> >>
> >> This may just be because I have started building using the native Debian
> >> gcc for the powerpc builds ...
> >
> > Do you know why we started creating these?
> 
> It's controlled by the ld option --hash-style, which AFAICS still
> defaults to sysv (generating .hash).
> 
> But it seems gcc can be configured to have a different default, and at
> least my native ppc64le toolchains are passing gnu, eg:
> 
>  /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/collect2 -plugin
>  /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/liblto_plugin.so
>  -plugin-opt=/usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/lto-wrapper
>  -plugin-opt=-fresolution=/tmp/ccw1U2fF.res
>  -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc_s
>  -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc
>  -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc_s --sysroot=/ --build-id --eh-frame-hdr
>  -V -shared -m elf64lppc
>  --hash-style=gnu
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> So that's presumably why we're seeing it, some GCCs are configured to
> use it.
> 
> > If it's intentional, should we be putting including them in the same
> > way as .hash sections?
> >
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/powerpc/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S#n282
> >
> >   .hash : AT(ADDR(.hash) - LOAD_OFFSET) { *(.hash) }
> 
> That would presumably work.
> 
> My question though is do we even need it?
> 
> >From what I can see for it to be useful you need the section as well as
> an entry in the dynamic section pointing at it, and we don't have a
> dynamic section at all:
> 
>   $ readelf -S vmlinux | grep gnu.hash
>     [ 4] .gnu.hash         GNU_HASH         c000000000dbbdb0  00dcbdb0
>   $ readelf -d vmlinux
>   
>   There is no dynamic section in this file.
> 
> Compare to the vdso:
> 
> $ readelf -d arch/powerpc/kernel/vdso64/vdso64.so
> 
> Dynamic section at offset 0x868 contains 12 entries:
>   Tag        Type                         Name/Value
>  0x000000000000000e (SONAME)             Library soname: [linux-vdso64.so.1]
>  0x0000000000000004 (HASH)               0x120
>  0x000000006ffffef5 (GNU_HASH)           0x170
>  0x0000000000000005 (STRTAB)             0x320
>  0x0000000000000006 (SYMTAB)             0x1d0
>  0x000000000000000a (STRSZ)              269 (bytes)
>  0x000000000000000b (SYMENT)             24 (bytes)
>  0x0000000070000003 (PPC64_OPT)          0x0
>  0x000000006ffffffc (VERDEF)             0x450
>  0x000000006ffffffd (VERDEFNUM)          2
>  0x000000006ffffff0 (VERSYM)             0x42e
>  0x0000000000000000 (NULL)               0x0
> 
> 
> So can't we just discard .gnu.hash? And in fact do we need .hash either?
> 
> Actually arm64 discards the latter, and parisc discards both.
> 
> Would still be good to hear from Alan or someone else who knows anything
> about toolchain stuff, ie. not me :)

.gnu.hash, like .hash, is used by glibc ld.so for dynamic symbol
lookup.  I imagine you don't need either section in a kernel, so
discarding both sounds reasonable.  Likely you could discard .interp
and .dynstr too, and .dynsym when !CONFIG_PPC32.

-- 
Alan Modra
Australia Development Lab, IBM

Re: linux-next: build warnings from Linus' tree

[Joel Stanley]

On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 21:52, Alan Modra <amodra@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2018 at 09:20:23PM +1100, Michael Ellerman wrote:
> > Joel Stanley <joel@jms.id.au> writes:
> > > Hello Alan,
> > >
> > > On Tue, 12 Jun 2018 at 07:44, Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Building Linus' tree, today's linux-next build (powerpc ppc64_defconfig)
> > >> produced these warning:
> > >>
> > >> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
> > >> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
> > >> ld: warning: orphan section `.gnu.hash' from `linker stubs' being placed in section `.gnu.hash'.
> > >>
> > >> This may just be because I have started building using the native Debian
> > >> gcc for the powerpc builds ...
> > >
> > > Do you know why we started creating these?
> >
> > It's controlled by the ld option --hash-style, which AFAICS still
> > defaults to sysv (generating .hash).
> >
> > But it seems gcc can be configured to have a different default, and at
> > least my native ppc64le toolchains are passing gnu, eg:
> >
> >  /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/collect2 -plugin
> >  /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/liblto_plugin.so
> >  -plugin-opt=/usr/lib/gcc/powerpc64le-linux-gnu/6/lto-wrapper
> >  -plugin-opt=-fresolution=/tmp/ccw1U2fF.res
> >  -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc_s
> >  -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lc -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc
> >  -plugin-opt=-pass-through=-lgcc_s --sysroot=/ --build-id --eh-frame-hdr
> >  -V -shared -m elf64lppc
> >  --hash-style=gnu
> >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >
> > So that's presumably why we're seeing it, some GCCs are configured to
> > use it.
> >
> > > If it's intentional, should we be putting including them in the same
> > > way as .hash sections?
> > >
> > > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/arch/powerpc/kernel/vmlinux.lds.S#n282
> > >
> > >   .hash : AT(ADDR(.hash) - LOAD_OFFSET) { *(.hash) }
> >
> > That would presumably work.
> >
> > My question though is do we even need it?
> >
> > >From what I can see for it to be useful you need the section as well as
> > an entry in the dynamic section pointing at it, and we don't have a
> > dynamic section at all:
> >
> >   $ readelf -S vmlinux | grep gnu.hash
> >     [ 4] .gnu.hash         GNU_HASH         c000000000dbbdb0  00dcbdb0
> >   $ readelf -d vmlinux
> >
> >   There is no dynamic section in this file.
> >
> > Compare to the vdso:
> >
> > $ readelf -d arch/powerpc/kernel/vdso64/vdso64.so
> >
> > Dynamic section at offset 0x868 contains 12 entries:
> >   Tag        Type                         Name/Value
> >  0x000000000000000e (SONAME)             Library soname: [linux-vdso64.so.1]
> >  0x0000000000000004 (HASH)               0x120
> >  0x000000006ffffef5 (GNU_HASH)           0x170
> >  0x0000000000000005 (STRTAB)             0x320
> >  0x0000000000000006 (SYMTAB)             0x1d0
> >  0x000000000000000a (STRSZ)              269 (bytes)
> >  0x000000000000000b (SYMENT)             24 (bytes)
> >  0x0000000070000003 (PPC64_OPT)          0x0
> >  0x000000006ffffffc (VERDEF)             0x450
> >  0x000000006ffffffd (VERDEFNUM)          2
> >  0x000000006ffffff0 (VERSYM)             0x42e
> >  0x0000000000000000 (NULL)               0x0
> >
> >
> > So can't we just discard .gnu.hash? And in fact do we need .hash either?
> >
> > Actually arm64 discards the latter, and parisc discards both.
> >
> > Would still be good to hear from Alan or someone else who knows anything
> > about toolchain stuff, ie. not me :)
>
> .gnu.hash, like .hash, is used by glibc ld.so for dynamic symbol
> lookup.  I imagine you don't need either section in a kernel, so
> discarding both sounds reasonable.  Likely you could discard .interp
> and .dynstr too, and .dynsym when !CONFIG_PPC32.

Thanks for the digging Michael, and thanks Alan for clarifying the
details. I'll cook up a patch or two.

Cheers,

Joel